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Subaru IMPREZA WRX STI
 


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my brother just bought a 95 ford aspire because his f-150 was killing him on gas going to work. its damn ugly. its like a purplish blue color with a red fender and front bumper with a darker red hood. dents and scratches all over it. 3 hub caps, all from a honda. the driver side door lock looks like its been shot out. he doesnt care, it's his easter egg. and its gets the job done
 

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ya, suburus are pretty bad ass! the only thing is people who drive non-sti's are either gay or 100 years old. nice cars though.
 

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I would say you could get a Saturn Ion. I mean american made 5 speed or 6 speed manual I think, get the Quad Coupe so it looks sporty, the engine is quite peppy, and you can get like 32 - 35 mpgs city or highway. And all for around 15K with most options. My only regret is not talking my dad into buying this version and not the 11K striped down version. still fast as heck though. :icon_thumby:
 

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Not to start a shit storm but unless you plan on owning something forever, avoid the American cars. The hold their value the same as a strainer holds water.
 

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Not to start a shit storm but unless you plan on owning something forever, avoid the American cars. The hold their value the same as a strainer holds water.
Simple solution is not to buy new and take advantage of them loosing their value.
 

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Simple solution is not to buy new and take advantage of them loosing their value.
They still hemorrhage value Even if you buy it 5 years old, it still drops faster than there toyota, honda, Nissan, act competition.
 

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What recalls? I worked for Nissan up until last year and the only engine recall effected a small number of cars. And after the fact, even 2/3 of those cars weren't actually effected. I did however see many many 2.5 liters in fleet cars with over 150k on them and no problems. Plus it's the peppiest 4 cyl out of the cars mentioned.


PS I currently work for Toyota, so I am not biased.
I'm working for Nissan now. Almost every other day I got a 2.5 ECU re-program (although that dosn't make them bad, persay). I get to re-place a few cam/crank sensors a week. On the new body Altimas I do a lot of tensioner bolt re-calls, and exhuast braket re-calls. A lot of the tech's that have been there longer than me have replaced a lot of the 2.5's cause they keep crapping out due to the cam/crank sensors. The motors just are poorly built compaired to the rest of nissan's motors. They do have plenty of power though and I'm sure you can make them last but they just don't seem to be well built at all.

The worst re-call I've had though is the one out on the sentra's now. The brake master cylinder leaks out the back and into the power booster. Out of the 40 I've done only 3 car's wern't affected.
 

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Simple solution is not to buy new and take advantage of them loosing their value.
Like what I did. 2001 PT Cruiser, 2.4L non turbo, power windows, power locks, keyless entry, every window tinted (aside from windshield), am/fm/casset/cd, 5 speed manual, chrome package, with 151000km all highway, all for $5500, when a Civic/Accord or Corolla/Camry of the same age would still be well over the $10k mark, and with the PT I have a lot more storage room. Just needed a timing belt, and a windshield, and both are done at a grand total of $350 (including water pump when doing the timing belt). And for the millions of them there are on the road, I'm only worked on a handful of them. I'd say American cars from the last 5-ish years are just as reliable as any import, and in some cases, more. I've noticed the quality of Honda's and Toyota's going down in quality as well. Most cars are made equal now, but Honda and Toyota will cost you an arm and a leg to buy a used one, when an American car of the same size and quality is quite less.
 

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They still hemorrhage value Even if you buy it 5 years old, it still drops faster than there toyota, honda, Nissan, act competition.
If you buy it at 5 years old and sell it when it is 15, the money you saved when you bought it more than what you lost when you sell it.

Not to mention there isn't an import dealership for the lovely "dealer only parts" within an hour drive from my garage... I ran into that with my last import.
 

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im gonna be different, u want something thats quick, gets 50 mpg, and has lots of potential for mods as well as lots of room,

get yourself a VW Jetta GLS TDI, turbo diesel FTW
 

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Not to start a shit storm but unless you plan on owning something forever, avoid the American cars. The hold their value the same as a strainer holds water.
Cars are not investments. It's a huge mistake to think of them that way.

Trade-ins are ALWAYS a rip-off. I won't pay more than $2000 for a vehicle in good shape. Which is why I drive a '91 and a '95, both with over 200K miles.

They are both worth next to nothing, but they get me where I need to go.
 

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Cars are not investments. It's a huge mistake to think of them that way.

Trade-ins are ALWAYS a rip-off. I won't pay more than $2000 for a vehicle in good shape. Which is why I drive a '91 and a '95, both with over 200K miles.

They are both worth next to nothing, but they get me where I need to go.
I am intelligent enough to know cars are not an investment(normally, Gramps has two Vettes that defy that logic). However, like any loss situation, it makes good sense to manage that loss. Meaning you stay away from the higher loss potential.
 

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And they way you do that is to buy 20 year old vehicles for pennies on the dollar.

How long does it take a brand new Toyota Corolla to lose $2000? How long does it take a 1998? What about a 1988? All of these are fuel injected and get mileage well into the 30s or higher.

Yes, I know people think these things die after 100,000 miles. Except, they don't. The Prizm will probably have tripled that by Christmas. Certainly by the following summer. The Exploder isn't too far behind.
 

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And they way you do that is to buy 20 year old vehicles for pennies on the dollar.

How long does it take a brand new Toyota Corolla to lose $2000? How long does it take a 1998? What about a 1988? All of these are fuel injected and get mileage well into the 30s or higher.

Yes, I know people think these things die after 100,000 miles. Except, they don't. The Prizm will probably have tripled that by Christmas. Certainly by the following summer. The Exploder isn't too far behind.
I agree to an extent. The reason many people shy away from older vehicles with astronomical mileage is maintenance. Those vehicles will traditionally break more often or require more time. I personally don't have the time to own and older vehicle that gets driven daily. Many people are in the same boat, or just lack knowledge to repair the vehicle properly.

Now, for a toy, that's a different story. I am still looking for a nice, late 70's Z car.
 

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