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Question about 2.3 turbo t bird engines


SykoRanger88

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those 2.3 tbird turbo engines would bolt right into my 88 2.3 5 speed ranger? and the only modifications would be i think the heater box, exhaust and some wiring? also would i have to take an engine out of a 5 speed tbird or could i use an engine out of an automatic tbird and it would still work fine in my 5 speed ranger? also any specific years that i would have to use or would any of the turbo tbird engines work, a buddy of mine has a turbo tbird sitting in the weeds i might look into it if it isnt a huge job, if i could do it in a weekend with help from my dad i would do it, this is a daily driven vehicle, thanks.
 
2.3T is just a 2.3 with a turbo bolted on the side for all practical purposes. All you have to do is notch the heater box or run a center mount header. Depending on the year you have, it might take as little as re-pinning the EEC connector.
 
damn its that simple? i could just bolt the turbo and manifold on my 2.3 i thought i would have to swap injectors,computer,manifold,turbo and maybe some other lines...i was just gonna try and get a complete good running 2.3t motor and bolt it in and use my old for parts.
 
the turbo T-bird 2.3 also have forged internals, your N/A 2.3 just has cast internals. if you were to put a turbo on your N/A 2.3 you would only be able to run around 3-6psi without blowing it, you also have to do some drilling and tapping for oil sending and return lines for the turbo . the turbo 2.3's are capable of 25psi in stock form.
 
I was talking about physically being the same. The 2.3T does have a different computer, injectors, etc. But that wont hamper your effort in putting it in the same spot as your existing engine.
 
the turbo T-bird 2.3 also have forged internals, your N/A 2.3 just has cast internals. if you were to put a turbo on your N/A 2.3 you would only be able to run around 3-6psi without blowing it, you also have to do some drilling and tapping for oil sending and return lines for the turbo . the turbo 2.3's are capable of 25psi in stock form.

You can run more than 6psi, your just on borrowed time with the cast pistons, and any hint of detonation will destroy them.
 
the only internal part that needs to be upgraded is the pistons. the forged t-coupe pistons will fit right in. as for the rods and crank, there are folks on turborangerforum that are pushing 400rwhp on stock ranger crank and rods. otherwise for what th op wants to know, a t-coupe engine will plop right in. if you get a t-coupe wiring harness it will make life easier for you. instead of repinning and adding a few sensors to the harness. just get the turbo harness and ecu. make life easy!
 
yes, the motor will drop right in, if you dont mind spending a little money to make it easier, theres a company on ebay that sells brand new wiring harnesses for this type of swap. there around $400 but would take a strain off the brain. ive heard from turbocoupe and ranger swap guys that the harness is very good quality.
 
ill try to just buy the whole vehicle then or at least the engine,harness,ecu and stuff, ive got no idea on the condition i just know a friend of a friend has one sitting at his house, i hope its a 87-88 if not then can i still do the swap?
 
o yeah, 84-88 turbo coupe motors will work, then all the same, except for a few things, computer, intake manifold, turbo, etc. the block and internal are all the same. 88' is the best you can get, so look for a 88'.
 
actually it's easier to use the ranger harness on the turbo engine, the T birds have a different under hood setup, and the chassis harness is somewhat integrated to the engine harness (at least the one from my '86 engine was)

the only two things that need to be spliced or swapped on on the ranger harness are the VAM and boost controller (if you use the stock one) that is if you use a '86 or older engine, if '87 or '88 you will have to add a air temp sensor. on the '85-86 engines the coolant temp sensor is in a slightly different location than the '89 up ranger sensor on the intake manifold. It takes a little research, but it's not all that difficult
 
o yeah, 84-88 turbo coupe motors will work, then all the same, except for a few things, computer, intake manifold, turbo, etc. the block and internal are all the same. 88' is the best you can get, so look for a 88'.

Actually the blocks were specially selected from production

Only a certain part of each individual "pour" never the first several.

Then they were selected for weight AFTER initial machining

THEN the blocks were checked for core concentricity by ultrasound
to check the unifrmity of the cylinder wall thickness.

Basically the turbo blocks were selected from the top 5% or
so of whatever was available and in '88 on rangers and '89-90
on Mustangs if you look close at the engines you find a few
that were actually drilled for the oil return pipe but were used
for production normally aspirated engines. these were turbo blocks
in all respects, they just made more of them than they actually
needed.

as for the internals the turbo engines were built with FORGED
pistons with a larger dish to reduce compression.
The lower the compression the more boost you can run.

On part of a turbo engine that I WOULD NOT use is the stock camshaft.
Not that there is a really "better" one for general use, but the factory
"slider" camshaft grings itself (and the sled followers) into metal chips that have gotta go THROUGH the oil pump before the filter can catch them

One real bad issue with this cam is the tendency of the base circle of the cam lobe to wear a groove across the face of the follower
this has two mechanical secondary effects, first the shock of the lobe tip wiping through that grove causes microcracks in the hardened surface
of the lobe and that leads to failure of the lobe itself.
The second effect is it causes the follower to hop up and away
from the lobe tip which cause the formation of an "Echo groove"
further along the "sled" surface of the follower.

there is an additional problem these grooves cause other than
accelerated wear and metal chips...
the knock sensor "hears" this noise and pulls timing (and boost)
in response to what it "thinks" is a spark knock.

The cam to run is the '88-94 ranger roller, it's not a spectacular cam,
but the fabricated cam is as hard as glass.
I have never seen a worn one, even one I personally pulled out of an '88 Ranger engine that I KNEW had in excess of 200k

It also reduces rolling friction inside the engine.

The stock Sled cam takes a wrench to turn over
the roller cam can be rotated in the head by simply grabbing
the pulley with your hand and rotating it.

AD
 
AllenD- thats a damn good write up. you should submit that to the tech library. Real good information!!
 
interesting, i didnt know they picked through the 2.3 motors to find the perfict turbo blocks.
 
damn thats good info, hopefully if i can get ahold of a 2.3t engine you guys can guide me through the process of installation this is a daily driver so i would have to get it taken care of in a weekend lol, hopefully thats possible i figure if i get everything i need and a decent idea of what i gotta do take some notes or print some stuff off from here and it wont be bad, my father would help me who is a diesel mechanic...i also saw a 87 i think turbo 2.3 complete engine on ebay for 1500 buy it now 130k miles looked good, is that what they usually go for?
 

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