• Welcome Visitor! Please take a few seconds and Register for our forum. Even if you don't want to post, you can still 'Like' and react to posts.

Mid Grade gas makes noticeable difference on my Ranger


sgtsandman

Aircraft Fuel Tank Diver
TRS Forum Moderator
U.S. Military - Active
TRS 20th Anniversary
TRS Event Participant
Ham Radio Operator
GMRS Radio License
Joined
Mar 11, 2017
Messages
12,864
Reaction score
12,652
Points
113
Location
Aliquippa, PA
Vehicle Year
2011/2019
Make / Model
Ranger XLT/FX4
Engine Size
4.0 SOHC/2.3 Ecoboost
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
Pre-2008 lift/Stock
Tire Size
31X10.5R15/265/65R17
My MS311 doesn't have a primer bulb either but does have the decompression button. It usually only takes a few pulls to get it to start.
 


Josh B

Well-Known Member
Supporting Member
TRS 20th Anniversary
Joined
Aug 15, 2019
Messages
4,005
Reaction score
1,986
Points
113
Location
Oklahoma
Vehicle Year
1993
Make / Model
Ford Ranger
Engine Type
4.0 V6
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Mine wouldn't start for so long I almost expected to scarp it. Then I tried a shot of ether and 2 or 3 pulls it started :)
 

sgtsandman

Aircraft Fuel Tank Diver
TRS Forum Moderator
U.S. Military - Active
TRS 20th Anniversary
TRS Event Participant
Ham Radio Operator
GMRS Radio License
Joined
Mar 11, 2017
Messages
12,864
Reaction score
12,652
Points
113
Location
Aliquippa, PA
Vehicle Year
2011/2019
Make / Model
Ranger XLT/FX4
Engine Size
4.0 SOHC/2.3 Ecoboost
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
Pre-2008 lift/Stock
Tire Size
31X10.5R15/265/65R17
Mine wouldn't start for so long I almost expected to scarp it. Then I tried a shot of ether and 2 or 3 pulls it started :)
Nothing beats a visit from the ether bunny.
 

Roert42

Well-Known Member
RBV's on Boost
TRS Event Participant
Joined
Apr 24, 2020
Messages
4,783
Reaction score
4,975
Points
113
Location
Kintersville, PA
Vehicle Year
2011
Make / Model
Ranger XLT
Engine Size
4.0 SOHC
Transmission
Automatic
2WD / 4WD
2WD
My MS250 was like that. Secret handshake lol describes it perfectly. Also no primer bulb
If you don’t read the instructions to figure out the handshake it’ll never start, but once you read the little book that comes with the saw it starts up perfectly every time. Weird lol.

My shitty echo that I abuse the crap out of starts up on the first pull every time. Same thing with my push mower I also abuse the crap out of.

The lawn equipment I treat well all seems to hate me though.
 

ekrampitzjr

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 28, 2021
Messages
769
Reaction score
1,069
Points
93
Location
Virginia
Vehicle Year
2011
Make / Model
Ford Ranger
Engine Type
4.0 V6
Transmission
Automatic
2WD / 4WD
2WD
My shitty echo that I abuse the crap out of starts up on the first pull every time. Same thing with my push mower I also abuse the crap out of.

The lawn equipment I treat well all seems to hate me though.
Same here. The big irony is that the cheap base-model push mower I bought from that big blue box store 2 years ago is the easiest starting, nicest running mower I've ever had, and some of the past ones were a lot more expensive. The previous one was a "nicer" Craftsman from a local Sears that was going out of business, and that mower turned out to be a piece of crap with lots of little problems and hard starting.
 

Roert42

Well-Known Member
RBV's on Boost
TRS Event Participant
Joined
Apr 24, 2020
Messages
4,783
Reaction score
4,975
Points
113
Location
Kintersville, PA
Vehicle Year
2011
Make / Model
Ranger XLT
Engine Size
4.0 SOHC
Transmission
Automatic
2WD / 4WD
2WD
Same here. The big irony is that the cheap base-model push mower I bought from that big blue box store 2 years ago is the easiest starting, nicest running mower I've ever had, and some of the past ones were a lot more expensive. The previous one was a "nicer" Craftsman from a local Sears that was going out of business, and that mower turned out to be a piece of crap with lots of little problems and hard starting.
My push mower is a Hyper Tough I got for $30 as a floor model from Wally World. Cheapest mower you could find, side discharge only, ect.

I ran that little brigs on dirty kerosene and ether for a summer. Doesn’t seem to care.
 

99 XLT

New Member
ASE Certified Tech
Joined
Feb 14, 2022
Messages
12
Reaction score
23
Points
3
Location
Milwaukee
Vehicle Year
99
Make / Model
XLT
Transmission
Manual
I manage a landscaping company and we obviously use a ton of weed eaters and blowers, power tools etc.

Sometimes it flat out doesn't matter what you do, the tool is just a pain in the rump to start or use. We often order 10+ of the same tool, like this year we bought 10 brand new echo weed eaters, back pack blowers, and some stihl chainsaws. Every single one of those machines runs different. Each one starts it's own little weird way. Some like a bit of throttle, some flood if you give throttle. Some start with no choke, others need choke for 2-3 minutes.

They're mass-produced machines, not hand built. They're also way less adjustable than they were in years past. Basically every 2 stroke we run now has no adjustments on the carb, maybe a throttle screw, but almost nothing. If it's running bad right from the factory, I can't re-jet it, or adjust jets / airflow. My only option is to find the choke sweet spot. I blame this on every carb now being casted plastic with plastic jets that aren't removeable. Those are never going to be perfect and exact like a milled or molded metal jet in a metal carb.

Gas doesn't matter much to us. We always buy the cheapest 87, mix some seafoam in each 5gal tank, and it's good to go. Even after letting 20gals sit all winter, it's good come spring. Some machines just flat out are going to give you a hard time no-matter what you do.
 

alwaysFlOoReD

Forum Staff Member
TRS Forum Moderator
TRS Banner 2012-2015
TRS 20th Anniversary
Joined
Apr 13, 2009
Messages
13,957
Reaction score
5,102
Points
113
Location
Calgary, Canada
Vehicle Year
'91, '80, '06
Make / Model
Ford, GMC,Dodge
Engine Size
4.0,4.0,5.7
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
4WD
I manage a landscaping company and we obviously use a ton of weed eaters and blowers, power tools etc.

Sometimes it flat out doesn't matter what you do, the tool is just a pain in the rump to start or use. We often order 10+ of the same tool, like this year we bought 10 brand new echo weed eaters, back pack blowers, and some stihl chainsaws. Every single one of those machines runs different. Each one starts it's own little weird way. Some like a bit of throttle, some flood if you give throttle. Some start with no choke, others need choke for 2-3 minutes.

They're mass-produced machines, not hand built. They're also way less adjustable than they were in years past. Basically every 2 stroke we run now has no adjustments on the carb, maybe a throttle screw, but almost nothing. If it's running bad right from the factory, I can't re-jet it, or adjust jets / airflow. My only option is to find the choke sweet spot. I blame this on every carb now being casted plastic with plastic jets that aren't removeable. Those are never going to be perfect and exact like a milled or molded metal jet in a metal carb.

Gas doesn't matter much to us. We always buy the cheapest 87, mix some seafoam in each 5gal tank, and it's good to go. Even after letting 20gals sit all winter, it's good come spring. Some machines just flat out are going to give you a hard time no-matter what you do.
How much seafood per 5 gallons?
 

sgtsandman

Aircraft Fuel Tank Diver
TRS Forum Moderator
U.S. Military - Active
TRS 20th Anniversary
TRS Event Participant
Ham Radio Operator
GMRS Radio License
Joined
Mar 11, 2017
Messages
12,864
Reaction score
12,652
Points
113
Location
Aliquippa, PA
Vehicle Year
2011/2019
Make / Model
Ranger XLT/FX4
Engine Size
4.0 SOHC/2.3 Ecoboost
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
Pre-2008 lift/Stock
Tire Size
31X10.5R15/265/65R17

RobbieD

2.9l Mafia
Joined
Aug 6, 2007
Messages
3,892
Reaction score
3,479
Points
113
Location
Georgia
Vehicle Year
1984,1990,1994
Make / Model
Ford
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
2WD
My credo
Toonces drives a Ranger . . . . just not very well.
Lol... damn autocorrect...
Meant seafoam.
I think that the rule of thumb is 1 inch for every 1 gallon.

Oh wait; that's for aquariums. You may want to consider a pond for raising seafood.
 

ekrampitzjr

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 28, 2021
Messages
769
Reaction score
1,069
Points
93
Location
Virginia
Vehicle Year
2011
Make / Model
Ford Ranger
Engine Type
4.0 V6
Transmission
Automatic
2WD / 4WD
2WD
How many shrimp per gallon? :LOL:
 

Eddo Rogue

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 18, 2020
Messages
3,982
Reaction score
2,502
Points
113
Location
Burbank,CA
Vehicle Year
1993
Make / Model
Ranger 4x4
Engine Type
4.0 V6
Engine Size
OHV
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
skyjacker front leveling kit
Tire Size
31-10.50R15
My credo
Crossed threads are tight threads.
I manage a landscaping company and we obviously use a ton of weed eaters and blowers, power tools etc.

Sometimes it flat out doesn't matter what you do, the tool is just a pain in the rump to start or use. We often order 10+ of the same tool, like this year we bought 10 brand new echo weed eaters, back pack blowers, and some stihl chainsaws. Every single one of those machines runs different. Each one starts it's own little weird way. Some like a bit of throttle, some flood if you give throttle. Some start with no choke, others need choke for 2-3 minutes.

They're mass-produced machines, not hand built. They're also way less adjustable than they were in years past. Basically every 2 stroke we run now has no adjustments on the carb, maybe a throttle screw, but almost nothing. If it's running bad right from the factory, I can't re-jet it, or adjust jets / airflow. My only option is to find the choke sweet spot. I blame this on every carb now being casted plastic with plastic jets that aren't removeable. Those are never going to be perfect and exact like a milled or molded metal jet in a metal carb.

Gas doesn't matter much to us. We always buy the cheapest 87, mix some seafoam in each 5gal tank, and it's good to go. Even after letting 20gals sit all winter, it's good come spring. Some machines just flat out are going to give you a hard time no-matter what you do.
This. My MS250 was just a dud. When it wanted to, it would fire right up, other times it just refused to start. I would come back later and it would fire right up. depended on the day.

Even on a good day with it running like a champ and a fresh chain, it just wouldn't cut good.

On the contrary my MS193 gets abused and loves it. It is a little workhorse and bulletproof reliable.

Whats funny is the dud MS250 I purchased brand new from a mom and pop mower shop. The awesome lil MS193T I purchased well used from a retired tree trimmer.
 

Lefty

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 8, 2022
Messages
1,692
Reaction score
1,847
Points
113
Location
Saint Paul, MN
Vehicle Year
2003
Make / Model
Ranger Edge
Transmission
Automatic
My 2 cents, for what it's worth is to use all synthetic oil too. Engine performance is increased because it turns over easier. Is it actually cheaper? I'm not sure.
 

sgtsandman

Aircraft Fuel Tank Diver
TRS Forum Moderator
U.S. Military - Active
TRS 20th Anniversary
TRS Event Participant
Ham Radio Operator
GMRS Radio License
Joined
Mar 11, 2017
Messages
12,864
Reaction score
12,652
Points
113
Location
Aliquippa, PA
Vehicle Year
2011/2019
Make / Model
Ranger XLT/FX4
Engine Size
4.0 SOHC/2.3 Ecoboost
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Total Lift
Pre-2008 lift/Stock
Tire Size
31X10.5R15/265/65R17
My 2 cents, for what it's worth is to use all synthetic oil too. Engine performance is increased because it turns over easier. Is it actually cheaper? I'm not sure.
I run synthetic in everything, including my power equipment. I’ve never noticed a measurable difference in fuel usage or power but I do know for a fact that the insides of the engine are cleaner.

When I still had Honda CR-Vs, every so many miles you had to do a valve lash adjustment to prevent burnt valves. When I had only one vehicle and less expenses, I ran Amsoil. The engine looked brand new inside. With the cheaper synthetics, it wasn’t as clean but was a heck of a lot cleaner than when it was fed dino oil.

So, if for nothing else, I’m a big believer in synthetics for that. So much so, I use synthetic oils in my differentials as well. Supposedly Mercon V is synthetic. I imagine Mercon LV and ULV would be.

I also just found out the 2019 requires a special Dot 4 LV brake fluid. That is listed as synthetic. As hard as that stuff is to find and as expensive as it is, the 2011 isn’t going to get it. Dot 3 works just fine.
 

Sponsored Ad


Sponsored Ad

Members online

Member & Vendor Upgrades

For a small yearly donation, you can support this forum and receive a 'Supporting Member' banner, or become a 'Supporting Vendor' and promote your products here. Click the banner to find out how.

Truck of The Month


Shran
April Truck of The Month

Recently Featured

Want to see your truck here? Share your photos and details in the forum.

Follow TRS On Instagram

TRS Events

25th Anniversary Sponsors

Check Out The TRS Store


Sponsored Ad


Sponsored Ad

Sponsored Ad


Amazon Deals

Top