corerftech
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Update: the principal differences in the starters appears, after reviewing 360’ pictures of each, is wiring and size of the total starter package. The noses appear to be the same from a picture of course, which may mean that the separator plate won’t know the difference. It appears if an 88 F150 4.9 only differs in flywheel balance weight (flywheel/clutch) then perhaps the 1988 separator plate is interchangeable fully between I6 and V8. As long as the end of the crankshaft has the right parts hanging from it, then they marry??
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Another poster has brought up a timely concern of mine.
I have a 2001 explorer 5.0 that sits next to a 1998 F150 M5R2 manual (formerly a 4.2 V6 piece). They marry fine.
They will be coupled together, God willing, in the next few weeks and dry fit.
I have not procured an engine separator plate yet, no the 164T flywheel, or starter.
I know I need to go ALL F150 with everything, for a given year. So in my case, a 1993 F150 clutch/FW etc.
The engine plate is concerning with others that have expressed issues with fitment.
I have found an OE 1988 F150, 4.9l I6 still in truck complete. The 4.9 and 5.0 share bolt pattern, no issue there.
In using Rock Auto as a data source, there is a model 117 FW for I6 engine, a 167 FW for 5.0/50ounce. That is the difference, both are 164T. The starters though change dramatically hence the change in engine separator plate.
The 1988 donor uses a vastly different starter than the 1993-1996 F150/5.0
My concern or question: 1988 4.9l/300 M5R2 combo, will/should the engine separator plate be suitable, since the starter motor is the SAME for the 1988 5.0l/302 M5R2 ???
Some year after 1988, ford changed starters for both the 300 and 302. Of starter changed then likely separator changed. My intentions are to use late model 1993-96 F150 parts for the 5.0 clutch/FW and starter but I am having trouble finding an OE late model separator plate!! The 88 is the only one I could turn up!!
This is a starter/separator plate marriage concern only- between early years 1988 and late years 93-96 as pertains to ranger v8 swap.
Thank you in advance.
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Pending resolution or an answer, I may have found a donor (1988) for a starter and separator and bellhousing bolt set all in one. Perhaps I just procure all 1988 f150 parts for the end of the crank —— and maybe it will all play fine???
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original post:
Another poster has brought up a timely concern of mine.
I have a 2001 explorer 5.0 that sits next to a 1998 F150 M5R2 manual (formerly a 4.2 V6 piece). They marry fine.
They will be coupled together, God willing, in the next few weeks and dry fit.
I have not procured an engine separator plate yet, no the 164T flywheel, or starter.
I know I need to go ALL F150 with everything, for a given year. So in my case, a 1993 F150 clutch/FW etc.
The engine plate is concerning with others that have expressed issues with fitment.
I have found an OE 1988 F150, 4.9l I6 still in truck complete. The 4.9 and 5.0 share bolt pattern, no issue there.
In using Rock Auto as a data source, there is a model 117 FW for I6 engine, a 167 FW for 5.0/50ounce. That is the difference, both are 164T. The starters though change dramatically hence the change in engine separator plate.
The 1988 donor uses a vastly different starter than the 1993-1996 F150/5.0
My concern or question: 1988 4.9l/300 M5R2 combo, will/should the engine separator plate be suitable, since the starter motor is the SAME for the 1988 5.0l/302 M5R2 ???
Some year after 1988, ford changed starters for both the 300 and 302. Of starter changed then likely separator changed. My intentions are to use late model 1993-96 F150 parts for the 5.0 clutch/FW and starter but I am having trouble finding an OE late model separator plate!! The 88 is the only one I could turn up!!
This is a starter/separator plate marriage concern only- between early years 1988 and late years 93-96 as pertains to ranger v8 swap.
Thank you in advance.
added/
Pending resolution or an answer, I may have found a donor (1988) for a starter and separator and bellhousing bolt set all in one. Perhaps I just procure all 1988 f150 parts for the end of the crank —— and maybe it will all play fine???
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