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Negotiating my first house...


What is considered insane? I'm genuinely curious... My water/sewer bill averages about $75/month. It was about $50/month when I lived in town and that included garbage and recycling... I think my current water bill would be less but there's five of us doing laundry and showering.
 
What is considered insane? I'm genuinely curious... My water/sewer bill averages about $75/month. It was about $50/month when I lived in town and that included garbage and recycling... I think my current water bill would be less but there's five of us doing laundry and showering.

I don't consider mine to be bad. I think we pay about $130 a quarter, and I have over 300 gallons of fish tanks that get weekly water changes.

If distance is a factor (not sure why it would be) I only live about half the distance from the treatment plant as Dirtman's sister, maybe less than that from the town's water tower.
 
I got lucky with this house. I have septic system and city water. But they don't charge sewer if you're not connected. I honestly don't even know if it's available. Living by myself, I don't use a lot of water either. My water bill is the minimum charge each month - $12.
 
The septic for my 4fbr house was $6500 in 2012, it will vary wildly depending on house size and soil type.

I couldn't get a loan on the place until the sewer was up to code and it had good water... I had to hook up to rural water and put the sewer in on my own, the sellers didn't want to deal with it (my great uncle's estate) so I had to hope the loan would go thru after I did all that.
 
Septic tanks don’t go bad. You can pump them out (solids) and you can fix the Gusinta and Gusouta piping cheap if it even needs it. Google the configuration of the tank piping, usually $50 or less of 3-4” PVC. Cheap stuff you can do yourself.

What usually goes bad is the septic field which is usually nothing more than 6” perforated black abs corrugated flexible drain pipe. About 300’ run, zig zagged back and forth or looping the property and looping back on itself, for a 3-4 bedroom house. It needs to be almost level, but sloping down a teeny bit. It needs to be above the water table/groundwater level, but at least 2.5-3’ or more below the surface. You can put it in with a ditch witch in a day. Avoid where you might have to dig down and/or where surface water might leak in or septic water might leach out.

That assumes the old line/field is bad. If it just set up with sediment, the septic guys can run a high pressure reverse spray head through it and blow it out. If it has roots in it, this won’t work. If there’s any doubt, it’s only a few pennies more for the ditch witch and new line. That’s what I usually do.

& where is the house? Is it where the inspector will stumble up on you, or out of town? Do it on a Saturday....

my 2cents, hope it helps.
 
Afterthought, but if it’s just you in the house, this will get you home (ha ha). If you have a wife and kids, add the enzyme treatment you can buy at Home Depot or such three or four times a year as recommended, and it will keep your septic system healthy.

And I assume you know not to put any solvents or harsh chemicals in the system other than laundry soap and bleach and mamas nail polish. It’ll kill the bugs (bacteria) in the system that makes it work.
 
$13,000 for septic system.................how big is the house?
Or how bad is the drainage
Septic tanks don’t go bad. You can pump them out (solids) and you can fix the Gusinta and Gusouta piping cheap if it even needs it. Google the configuration of the tank piping, usually $50 or less of 3-4” PVC. Cheap stuff you can do yourself.

What usually goes bad is the septic field which is usually nothing more than 6” perforated black abs corrugated flexible drain pipe. About 300’ run, zig zagged back and forth or looping the property and looping back on itself, for a 3-4 bedroom house. It needs to be almost level, but sloping down a teeny bit. It needs to be above the water table/groundwater level, but at least 2.5-3’ or more below the surface. You can put it in with a ditch witch in a day. Avoid where you might have to dig down and/or where surface water might leak in or septic water might leach out.

That assumes the old line/field is bad. If it just set up with sediment, the septic guys can run a high pressure reverse spray head through it and blow it out. If it has roots in it, this won’t work. If there’s any doubt, it’s only a few pennies more for the ditch witch and new line. That’s what I usually do.

& where is the house? Is it where the inspector will stumble up on you, or out of town? Do it on a Saturday....

my 2cents, hope it helps.


So here's the overall deal. I spent an hour or two in the house puttering about with the owners.
1). Roof is shot needs re done at least 30% resheeted.
2). Needs new sub floors hole in the roof leaks down and makes it sketchy where ya walk in some spots and it's not level ya know ya want flat and level everywhere ideally.
3). House was empty for 15+ years. So all plumbing and wiring needs redone. Can't trust it.
4). It's gutted no drywall anywhere in the place or insulation.
5). All the wood sideing is rotted and soft
6.) No gutters on the front of the house. Water ran off roof onto a cinder block porch and sat against the sill plate of the house. So when I rains it just goes right into the basement. Through a 12in+ wide hole.
7). The foundation walls in the front are pushing in a bit I think I could save it with rebar, concrete and a few days with a mini.
8). The whole house foundation could use waterproofed so visqueen and tar new drains/gravel.
9). There's an addition wall that's load bearing. From the bad roof it's let water run down this wall and rot it out a bit so the windows in the wall are both angled downward from the sag.
10) garage needs pushed over and burnt then rebuilt. Most it could be used for would be keeping building material dry. But I'd have to push it back up with my bronco and brace it up the toss a tarp over the gaping roof holes.
11) septic ass discussed above it's gotta be air-re-ate-er style only have .65 acres to work with.
12) the addition it's self has 2x12s or 2x10s spaning over 12ft and ones cracked long ways and it's sinking. So I'd have to rejoist it and add a brace the other way then jack up the roof with adjust-a-post knock out the wall fix the roof and set the house back down.

Now I know I'm missing some stuff but you get the idea here. Even after I have all of that done above I would still be short a furnace
Drywall
Water heater
Flooring
A kitchen
Bathroom.

I can't really find much good here gentlemen....
 
So here's the overall deal. I spent an hour or two in the house puttering about with the owners.
1). Roof is shot needs re done at least 30% resheeted.
2). Needs new sub floors hole in the roof leaks down and makes it sketchy where ya walk in some spots and it's not level ya know ya want flat and level everywhere ideally.
3). House was empty for 15+ years. So all plumbing and wiring needs redone. Can't trust it.
4). It's gutted no drywall anywhere in the place or insulation.
5). All the wood sideing is rotted and soft
6.) No gutters on the front of the house. Water ran off roof onto a cinder block porch and sat against the sill plate of the house. So when I rains it just goes right into the basement. Through a 12in+ wide hole.
7). The foundation walls in the front are pushing in a bit I think I could save it with rebar, concrete and a few days with a mini.
8). The whole house foundation could use waterproofed so visqueen and tar new drains/gravel.
9). There's an addition wall that's load bearing. From the bad roof it's let water run down this wall and rot it out a bit so the windows in the wall are both angled downward from the sag.
10) garage needs pushed over and burnt then rebuilt. Most it could be used for would be keeping building material dry. But I'd have to push it back up with my bronco and brace it up the toss a tarp over the gaping roof holes.
11) septic ass discussed above it's gotta be air-re-ate-er style only have .65 acres to work with.
12) the addition it's self has 2x12s or 2x10s spaning over 12ft and ones cracked long ways and it's sinking. So I'd have to rejoist it and add a brace the other way then jack up the roof with adjust-a-post knock out the wall fix the roof and set the house back down.

Now I know I'm missing some stuff but you get the idea here. Even after I have all of that done above I would still be short a furnace
Drywall
Water heater
Flooring
A kitchen
Bathroom.

I can't really find much good here gentlemen....
give him cost of the land and push the house over with the garage and start over....

AJ
 
Some counties out here require septic systems to be pumped and inspected when the home is sold (by the seller.) I ran into that a few years ago, the seller refused to do anything with it even though she was required by law... it was a mess and ultimately that was the major reason the sale fell through. I imagine there was something wrong with the system and she didn't want to disclose that.

The county I live in requires septic inspections every 10? years I think. Not relevant to me since I'm on city sewer but it was a big deal a few years ago when they started requiring that. I guess people were using all sorts of stuff for septic tanks, including old cars, 55 gallon drums, etc.
 
So here's the overall deal. I spent an hour or two in the house puttering about with the owners.
1). Roof is shot needs re done at least 30% resheeted.
2). Needs new sub floors hole in the roof leaks down and makes it sketchy where ya walk in some spots and it's not level ya know ya want flat and level everywhere ideally.
3). House was empty for 15+ years. So all plumbing and wiring needs redone. Can't trust it.
4). It's gutted no drywall anywhere in the place or insulation.
5). All the wood sideing is rotted and soft
6.) No gutters on the front of the house. Water ran off roof onto a cinder block porch and sat against the sill plate of the house. So when I rains it just goes right into the basement. Through a 12in+ wide hole.
7). The foundation walls in the front are pushing in a bit I think I could save it with rebar, concrete and a few days with a mini.
8). The whole house foundation could use waterproofed so visqueen and tar new drains/gravel.
9). There's an addition wall that's load bearing. From the bad roof it's let water run down this wall and rot it out a bit so the windows in the wall are both angled downward from the sag.
10) garage needs pushed over and burnt then rebuilt. Most it could be used for would be keeping building material dry. But I'd have to push it back up with my bronco and brace it up the toss a tarp over the gaping roof holes.
11) septic ass discussed above it's gotta be air-re-ate-er style only have .65 acres to work with.
12) the addition it's self has 2x12s or 2x10s spaning over 12ft and ones cracked long ways and it's sinking. So I'd have to rejoist it and add a brace the other way then jack up the roof with adjust-a-post knock out the wall fix the roof and set the house back down.

Now I know I'm missing some stuff but you get the idea here. Even after I have all of that done above I would still be short a furnace
Drywall
Water heater
Flooring
A kitchen
Bathroom.

I can't really find much good here gentlemen....

I can sell you a furnace...
 
give him cost of the land and push the house over with the garage and start over....

AJ
Problem is county won't let you install new septic on less than 1.5 acres unless you already have a house. This only has .65 ish, but I can reuse the foundation just chainsaw off the house part and start again. Lol

but I don't have that kind of time right now. Need me a place to be asap my dad's trying to sell my house while the prices are high. He's building a new place out of state.

Oh forgot it's only a 984sqft house built in 57
 
I wouldn't trust a dirtman furnace, even if he drop shipped it directly from the manufacturer he'd still find a way to poop in it.

So is this place on a city lot? Is city sewer nearby? That would kind of put you in a bind if there's no sewer available and the lot size requirements prevents septic... I guess you could buy a porta potty, lol
 
Oh and anyone heard from shaun? Is he around here some place?
 

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