Lewis & Clark Ford Bronco II


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It is kind of a shame they didn't offer up the new Bronco.

If it held up better than the Jeep that could have really changed the face of Camel Trophy...
 
It is kind of a shame they didn't offer up the new Bronco.

If it held up better than the Jeep that could have really changed the face of Camel Trophy...

The fullsize Bronco was the wrong fit. Bronco II was too small.

The Camel Trophy used Land Rovers with diesel engines. Diesels have a no spark ignition system to short out in deep water, deliver high torque at low speeds and have superior fuel efficiency.

I think the 1991 Ford Explorer would have been cool though. Vinyl seats, rubber floor instead of carpet. No frills. Manual hubs.

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Explorer vs Bronco II

Lewis & Clark Ford Bronco II

Lewis & Clark Ford Bronco II

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If only Lewis and Clark had a mini bike.

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Could you imagine Jim Carey and Jeff Daniels playing Lewis & Clark in a movie?
 
The fullsize Bronco was the wrong fit. Bronco II was too small.

The Camel Trophy used Land Rovers with diesel engines. Diesels have a no spark ignition system to short out in deep water, deliver high torque at low speeds and have superior fuel efficiency.

I think the 1991 Ford Explorer would have been cool though. Vinyl seats, rubber floor instead of carpet. No frills. Manual hubs.

Explorer vs Bronco II

By the time the Explorer came out they were pretty much locked into Land Rover, they weren't jumping ship.

When Ford did the off brand Jeep they had a chance.

The lack of a diesel option would have been a downer for sure. Diesel is easier to find abroad and has a better shelf life as well.
 
The U50 was way to small and not a very good vehicle. I would have much rather had the Land Rover.
 
The U50 was way to small and not a very good vehicle. I would have much rather had the Land Rover.

Rover was the ones to beat globally at the time until Toyota took over.

Ford seems content to sit on the sidelines for most of history, they are not highly thought of outside of North America.
 
Rover was the ones to beat globally at the time until Toyota took over.

Ford seems content to sit on the sidelines for most of history, they are not highly thought of outside of North America.

Ford exported the Explorer to Europe from 1992-1994 to compete with the Range Rover and Discovery, but it failed. The closest Ford ever came to competing with Land Rover was when they owned it from 2000-2008. They also owned Jaguar during this time which is why my 2005 Jaguar XJ8 is overwhelmed with wiring harnesses and modules. Ford built some interesting cars in Europe, but trucks and SUV's wasn't its thing. They mostly built cars, wagons, and weird vans.

I think Ford has followed the market more than they've lead it.
 
Ford exported the Explorer to Europe from 1992-1994 to compete with the Range Rover and Discovery, but it failed. The closest Ford ever came to competing with Land Rover was when they owned it from 2000-2008. They also owned Jaguar during this time which is why my 2005 Jaguar XJ8 is overwhelmed with wiring harnesses and modules. Ford built some interesting cars in Europe, but trucks and SUV's wasn't its thing. They mostly built cars, wagons, and weird vans.

I think Ford has followed the market more than they've lead it.

This is all FWIW....

When we were at the Off-Roadeo there was a somewhat newer LR at the maintenance area for the Broncos.

Lewis & Clark Ford Bronco II

That night at the bonfire thing but someone asked why it was there. I didn't catch the why but it came up that at least one of the instructors's theory of why Ford bought Rover was to get their traction control tech, Rover had all the mode stuff the Bronco is so proud of now way back then.

I checks and most of the Bronco's Goat modes are there, name and all:


How much truth there is to it I don't know but I know Rover's traction control is pretty highly thought of software wise so it does kind of make sense that if you can buy your way into it... which also sort of checks out because Ford's early TC totally and completely sucked. After the late '00 Rover purchase all the sudden Ford's TC could do more than taunt you by pulling power.
 
This is all FWIW....

When we were at the Off-Roadeo there was a somewhat newer LR at the maintenance area for the Broncos.

Lewis & Clark Ford Bronco II

That night at the bonfire thing but someone asked why it was there. I didn't catch the why but it came up that at least one of the instructors's theory of why Ford bought Rover was to get their traction control tech, Rover had all the mode stuff the Bronco is so proud of now way back then.

I checks and most of the Bronco's Goat modes are there, name and all:


How much truth there is to it I don't know but I know Rover's traction control is pretty highly thought of software wise so it does kind of make sense that if you can buy your way into it... which also sort of checks out because Ford's early TC totally and completely sucked. After the late '00 Rover purchase all the sudden Ford's TC could do more than taunt you by pulling power.

Well according to Google AI: "
Ford absolutely absorbed Land Rover’s pioneering electronic traction tech during the PAG years, and the DNA of Land Rover's Terrain Response system is directly woven into the Bronco's G.O.A.T. (Goes Over Any Type of Terrain) modes.
While the initial motivation for the 2000 buyout was corporate empire-building, the massive prize Ford actually took home from the marriage was Land Rover's specialized off-road intellectual property.
The technical lineage from the 2000s Rover systems to the modern Bronco highlights how this tech evolved:

1. The Birth of Terrain Response (LR3 vs. Bronco)
When Ford owned Land Rover, British engineers were developing a revolutionary software-driven system for the 2005 Land Rover LR3 called Terrain Response. Before this, off-roading required drivers to manually figure out when to lock differentials, disconnect sway bars, or modulate the throttle.
Terrain Response simplified this by grouping complex mechanical adjustments under user-friendly icons:
  • Normal / Special Programs Off
  • Grass/Gravel/Snow (prioritizes traction control, dulls throttle, starts in higher gears)
  • Mud/Ruts (allows tire spin to clear tread, alters shift points)
  • Sand (holds gears high, aggressive throttle response to keep momentum)
  • Rock Crawl (forces low-range, softens throttle to prevent jerking)
If you look at a 6G Bronco’s G.O.A.T. mode dial today, the programming logic is identical. Ford's Normal, Eco, Sport, Slippery, Mud/Ruts, Sand, and Rock Crawl modes change the exact same parameters: throttle mapping, transmission shift points, traction control intervention, ABS sensitivity, and steering feedback.

2. The Ford Transfer: From "Terrain Management" to G.O.A.T.
When Ford sold Land Rover to Tata in 2008, they didn't just delete the software archives. Ford retained the licensing and institutional knowledge of how those multi-mode algorithms were built.
Almost immediately after the sale, Ford rebranded this intellectual property as the Terrain Management System (TMS) and implemented it across their domestic lineup:
  • 2011 Ford Explorer: It ditched its traditional mechanical 4WD for a unibody setup utilizing a console dial with "Mud/Ruts," "Sand," and "Grass/Gravel/Snow" modes—a direct, watered-down copy of the LR3 system.
  • 2017 Ford Raptor: Ford dialed up the performance capability of the software, introducing "Baja Mode" and advanced electronic terrain logic for high-speed desert running.
By the time Ford engineered the current Bronco, the engineering team took that matured, Raptor-spec Terrain Management software, married it back to a heavy-duty mechanical 4x4 system with locking diffs and a disconnecting sway bar, and slapped the historic "G.O.A.T." marketing name on it."
 
I always thought it was ironic how the 2011 Ford Explorer looks so much like a Land Rover Discovery.
 
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ChatGPT made a new door logo for my tribute build.


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Or this one....

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I have a really cool off brand Camel Trophy Defender lego set.

I couldn't bring myself to put the "Gamel Trophy" decals on it lol.
 

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