Clocking the tie rod end

[cmequestionu]

I have a "Y" link steering setup. It has the one tie rod end that has a tapered hole built in for another tie rod end. My problem is I need that hole to be vertical and it is horizontal. At the risk of getting chewed out here is my question: (keep in mind I AM a certified welder and will be using a TIG(GTAW)) can the tie rod end be welded? More specifically can it be cut between the hole and the end, beveled, clocked to the preferred orientation and welded back together? Is there a special rod required? I know there are tapered inserts that require being welded in so that's why I'm hoping this is possible.

 

[dvdswan]

Sounds like you have the wrong tie rod end. What axle do you have? Any pictures of the steering setup?

 

[cmequestionu]

 

[cmequestionu]

 

[Dirtman]

In a hypothetical universe a person might claim that if such material were cast iron then use erni99. If this hypothetical part were cast steel then er70s2/6 would be sufficient however, and again completely hypothetical, er309L would probably be more ideal. Also say someone were to do this... It cannot be simply cut and butt welded, it needs to be cut and beveled to 100% or cut and welded then sleeved, and then welded again. Again, hypothetical answer only.

However given the amount of various tie rods out there and the obvious custom nature of this hypothetical endeavour it would make more sense to find a proper tie rod...

 

[dvdswan]

That is the only way the orientation is on TREs that I've seen. You would need to get a high steer setup for the other direction.

 

[cmequestionu]

In a hypothetical universe a person might claim that if such material were cast iron then use erni99. If this hypothetical part were cast steel then er70s2/6 would be sufficient however, and again completely hypothetical, er309L would probably be more ideal. Also say someone were to do this... It cannot be simply cut and butt welded, it needs to be cut and beveled to 100% or cut and welded then sleeved, and then welded again. Again, hypothetical answer only.

However given the amount of various tie rods out there and the obvious custom nature of this hypothetical endeavour it would make more sense to find a proper tie rod...

So in this completely hypothetical, damn near laughable situation, how would one find out what material it's hypothetically made of?

 

[cmequestionu]

That is the only way the orientation is on TREs that I've seen. You would need to get a high steer setup for the other direction.

Yeah, high steer isn't in the budget, unfortunately. The knuckles I have don't do high steer, at least not in the off the shelf way.

 

[Dirtman]

Magnet or spark test hypothetically. Steel is yellow iron is orange/red spark. Or a magnet will jam to steel quicker than iron but you need 2 known samples to test first to see the difference for either test to be 100% sure.

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

Heat it red hot and twist it 90°?

 

[Dirtman]

Heat it red hot and twist it 90°?

Hypothetically I have to tell you that advice is terrible.

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

I'm glad we're not in the real world...

 

[Dirtman]

I'm glad we're not in the real world...

Me too! A person hypothetically with an AWS SCWI would be screwed if he or she gave advice resulting in stupidity.

 

[dvdswan]

If the axle is a Dana 44 you could find a 77 and earlier chevy/gmc and pick up the right side steering knuckle for about 20.00. then you could have it milled for a ORD Dana 44 high steer setup. I don't know how much it would be to mill it now but I had mine done for 44.00 8-10yrs ago.

Actually you would need both sides steering knuckles off a gm truck.

 

[Dirtman]

If the axle is a Dana 44 you could find a 77 and earlier chevy/gmc and pick up the right side steering knuckle for about 20.00. then you could have it milled for a ORD Dana 44 high steer setup. I don't know how much it would be to mill it now but I had mine done for 44.00 8-10yrs ago.

Actually you would need both sides steering knuckles off a gm truck.

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