6.0 Powerstroke

[G8orFord]

IMO, so much misinformation here.
I'm not into typing that much on a phone so I'll just leave it at this. The 6.0 is a great engine with proper maintenance and a few fixes. There are literally 10's of thousands of them still on the road. Many with very little major problems and without the known issues corrected. The 6.4 is based on the 6.0.

 

[Dirtman]

Why?

@PetroleumJunkie412

 

[19Walt93]

My former diesel tech didn't like the 6.0 originally but changed his mind after a dose of 6.4. He even helped another tech build one for his own truck as an after hours volunteer job. 6.4's cleaned the DPF by overfueling the engine to make the exhaust rich so the customer's who bought one to tow their camper and used it as a commuter vehicle would end up with the oil drastically overfull. Both 6.0's and 6.4's worked better for people who drove more miles and didn't do a bunch of stop and go. Ford rushed the 6.0 into production because the 7.3 couldn't pass the 2003 emissions standards, GM and Dodge continued to use their old,non compliant diesels and paid a fine for each one. That seems wrong to me- if your engine doesn't meet the requirements you shouldn't be able to sell it. We had a lot less trouble with 6.7's.

 

[Snoranger]

IMO, so much misinformation here.
I'm not into typing that much on a phone so I'll just leave it at this. The 6.0 is a great engine with proper maintenance and a few fixes. There are literally 10's of thousands of them still on the road. Many with very little major problems and without the known issues corrected. The 6.4 is based on the 6.0.

I’m just telling you the issues we had on our fleet of about 100 of them. No misinformation here.
We had all 3 early builds with leaking high pressure oil fitting at the logs.
We had at least 30 blow out the early stand pipes before they updated them with the nylon backup rings.
And a few dozen had low voltage on 1 bank out of the FICM... enough that we stocked FICMs.

Other then that... we had some injector problems here and there.

 

[Dirtman]

Head bolts are screwed, FICM modules blow, turbos have oil issues, cooling issues, what is good about them?

 

[G8orFord]

For those unaware, both the 6.0 and 6.4 are IH/Navistar engines. Ford added about 100hp to the IH VT365 with tunng to make it work in the Superduty line. It wasn't designed for that kind of HP and torque, but handles it pretty well. 8 or 10 more head bolts would have helped though. Ford also decided to use their Ford Gold coolant instead of the CAT EC-1 coolant recommended by Navistar. It doesn't work well in engines with an EGR cooler that routinely sees 1000°F. The Gold breaks down and creates a silicate goo that clogs oil coolers. I've seen the filter stem literally melted from hot oil. That, in turn, starves the EGR cooler from coolant and it ruptures. Coolant gets in the confronted and boom, blown headgaskets. Liquids don't compress.

@19Walt93 is dead on with the 6.4. Deleted, they're pretty strong. Well, as long as the rods and crank hold out.

 

[Shran]

Both the 2V and 3V V10s are good engines. Very durable, spark plug blowouts on the 2V and broken exhaust studs on the 3V are the most common issues. I think they're Ford's best kept secret... I guess I feel like they must be good considering how long they built them, how many are still on the road, and the variety of applications they were used in.

Not much for aftermarket though unfortunately, they are kind of a pain to work on and they do not hold up well to turbos or superchargers from what I've heard.

I really like mine.

 

[G8orFord]

I’m just telling you the issues we had on our fleet of about 100 of them. No misinformation here.
We had all 3 early builds with leaking high pressure oil fitting at the logs.
We had at least 30 blow out the early stand pipes before they updated them with the nylon backup rings.
And a few dozen had low voltage on 1 bank out of the FICM... enough that we stocked FICMs.

Other then that... we had some injector problems here and there.

I wasn't specifically talking about you, but I wil admit, I thought you were talking about the falling STC fittings on the HPOP in the '05+ trucks. The '03-early '04s did have the straight rails with the flex lines and there were some problems with them, but I didn't think it was that bad. FICM problems plagued all years and was due to cold solder joints. Easily fixed for someone handy with an iron, but needed to be done prior to failure. Stand pipes and dummy plugs were a problem as well, but I've never personally dealt with any. I replaced mine as preventative maintenance when doing some other work.

Was the 6.0 rushed into production without sufficient testing, absolutely. Can the deficiencies be corrected with minimal cash outlay, also absolutely. Especially if you turn the wrenches yourself.

 

[Snoranger]

I wasn't specifically talking about you, but I wil admit, I thought you were talking about the falling STC fittings on the HPOP in the '05+ trucks. The '03-early '04s did have the straight rails with the flex lines and there were some problems with them, but I didn't think it was that bad. FICM problems plagued all years and was due to cold solder joints. Easily fixed for someone handy with an iron, but needed to be done prior to failure. Stand pipes and dummy plugs were a problem as well, but I've never personally dealt with any. I replaced mine as preventative maintenance when doing some other work.

Was the 6.0 rushed into production without sufficient testing, absolutely. Can the deficiencies be corrected with minimal cash outlay, also absolutely. Especially if you turn the wrenches yourself.

I don’t know if the flex line issue plagued all, most, or a few of the early trucks, but it was an issue on the 3 we had.

They’re not difficult to work on even with the cab on. the hardest thing to get to is the right rear torx bolt for the oil rail under the valve cover. I figured out that if you use a torx socket with a 1/4” ratchet wrench on the shank, you can get that bolt out easily enough.

 

[Ranger_XL]

This was the winner:

5.9 Cummins High Output Common Rail
6-Speed Manual
CC LB DRW

 

[Snoranger]

That’s a nice Cummins shipping crate... now you need to find a Superduty to put it in.

 

[Ranger_XL]

That’s a nice Cummins shipping crate... now you need to find a Superduty to put it in.

The shipping crate said 'fragile', so it must be Italian.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

This was the winner:

5.9 Cummins High Output Common Rail
6-Speed Manual
CC LB DRW

The 5.9 Cummins is the best choice you coulda made. Espicially with a 6speed. Smart descion.

Ive never owned a 6.0...never plan to. Honestly i wouldnt own any Ford diesel truck except for a 7.3PSD or a IDI 6.9/7.3.

 

[Snoranger]

Honestly i wouldnt own any Ford diesel truck except for a 7.3PSD or a IDI 6.9/7.3.

We kinda knew that without you having to say it.

 

[Dirtman]

Rusty's idea of the perfect vehicle....