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Havent posted on this thing in years, but have been having problems with my Tranny.
I’ve got an 04 Ranger, Fx4 Level 2, Manual Tranny, 4 wheel drive, 4.0L SOHC.
Mazda M50D-R1HD, with Borg Warner 1345 TC
At about 40k miles it on the extreme rare occasion would be difficult to get into 1st gear when stopped, if you pushed hard enough on the shifter it would go in. I’m talking maybe once every 100 times you were at a stop light in neutral and went to put it in first it would do this.
I changed the tranny fluid at 70k something, with a little Lucas Stabilizer mixed in. No change.
At about 80k miles it was at the point where it was having a VERY hard time going into 1st from a stop with the engine on. Would go in fine with the engine off. The technique if you pull up to a long stoplight involved shutting the truck off to get back into 1st. My rubber seals at the top of the tranny would leave a drip in my driveway about every other day.
I got mad one day and tore it all apart:
I replaced the clutch with a SPEC unit, which was NOT a cheap one.
I replaced the throwout bearing with the one that came with the clutch kit.
I replaced the pilot bearing with the one that came with the clutch kit (magnet, roller type)
I ripped out the rubber plugs and tapped the shifter holes for metal plugs.
Put it back together, and it was no better. (Although the SPEC clutch does hold way better than the stock unit) I drove it for another 15k miles shutting it off whenever I got stuck out of gear. I learned the proper time to downshift to 1st at about 3mph. I did not pack the pilot with grease, as it appeared to be prelubricated, I just put a little bit on the input shaft to make installation easier.
At this point, at a stoplight, having slipped it into 1st gear at 3mph, clutch to the floor, it would creep forward unless I had my foot on the brake.
Now we’re at 100k miles, and I’m mad it again. Tranny is leaking out of the plug holes at the top again, a few drips every time I park. Slave Cylinder is bad, right? Tranny back out. Replaced the slave cylinder, it was prebled, but I checked it anyway, zero air. There is ZERO free play in the pedal, slave starts moving the instant you put your foot on the clutch, the clutch appears to be fully disengaging. There was actually TOO MUCH fluid in the tranny, as I apparently filled it on unlevel ground after I had it out to put the clutch in. I drained it to the proper level.
NO DIFFERENCE!
104K miles. Almost impossible to shift into 1st unless rolling at 3mph or engine off. 3rd gear is almost impossible to shift into unless going the EXACT right speed and rev matching. Here’s the weird part, the ONLY way to get into 1st from a stop, is to first wiggle the shifter into 4th, then it goes right into 1st.
So.. I replaced the master. No change.
The only things I can think of are my synchros are shot, does 1st gear synchro go out ever? Any why is it creeping when I am stopped? Is it possible that I had 2 bad pilot bearings? Why does it slip into 4th gear (after some jiggling) when I am dead stopped, and that somehow “unlocks” first gear? Also, especially when its cold, i hear a rrrrrrr noise when I am slipping the clutch, I assume this is just the SPEC clutch disk making noise when cold. It seems to go away after about 2 stop signs.
I appreciate any advice you guys can give me.
I’ve got an 04 Ranger, Fx4 Level 2, Manual Tranny, 4 wheel drive, 4.0L SOHC.
Mazda M50D-R1HD, with Borg Warner 1345 TC
At about 40k miles it on the extreme rare occasion would be difficult to get into 1st gear when stopped, if you pushed hard enough on the shifter it would go in. I’m talking maybe once every 100 times you were at a stop light in neutral and went to put it in first it would do this.
I changed the tranny fluid at 70k something, with a little Lucas Stabilizer mixed in. No change.
At about 80k miles it was at the point where it was having a VERY hard time going into 1st from a stop with the engine on. Would go in fine with the engine off. The technique if you pull up to a long stoplight involved shutting the truck off to get back into 1st. My rubber seals at the top of the tranny would leave a drip in my driveway about every other day.
I got mad one day and tore it all apart:
I replaced the clutch with a SPEC unit, which was NOT a cheap one.
I replaced the throwout bearing with the one that came with the clutch kit.
I replaced the pilot bearing with the one that came with the clutch kit (magnet, roller type)
I ripped out the rubber plugs and tapped the shifter holes for metal plugs.
Put it back together, and it was no better. (Although the SPEC clutch does hold way better than the stock unit) I drove it for another 15k miles shutting it off whenever I got stuck out of gear. I learned the proper time to downshift to 1st at about 3mph. I did not pack the pilot with grease, as it appeared to be prelubricated, I just put a little bit on the input shaft to make installation easier.
At this point, at a stoplight, having slipped it into 1st gear at 3mph, clutch to the floor, it would creep forward unless I had my foot on the brake.
Now we’re at 100k miles, and I’m mad it again. Tranny is leaking out of the plug holes at the top again, a few drips every time I park. Slave Cylinder is bad, right? Tranny back out. Replaced the slave cylinder, it was prebled, but I checked it anyway, zero air. There is ZERO free play in the pedal, slave starts moving the instant you put your foot on the clutch, the clutch appears to be fully disengaging. There was actually TOO MUCH fluid in the tranny, as I apparently filled it on unlevel ground after I had it out to put the clutch in. I drained it to the proper level.
NO DIFFERENCE!
104K miles. Almost impossible to shift into 1st unless rolling at 3mph or engine off. 3rd gear is almost impossible to shift into unless going the EXACT right speed and rev matching. Here’s the weird part, the ONLY way to get into 1st from a stop, is to first wiggle the shifter into 4th, then it goes right into 1st.
So.. I replaced the master. No change.
The only things I can think of are my synchros are shot, does 1st gear synchro go out ever? Any why is it creeping when I am stopped? Is it possible that I had 2 bad pilot bearings? Why does it slip into 4th gear (after some jiggling) when I am dead stopped, and that somehow “unlocks” first gear? Also, especially when its cold, i hear a rrrrrrr noise when I am slipping the clutch, I assume this is just the SPEC clutch disk making noise when cold. It seems to go away after about 2 stop signs.
I appreciate any advice you guys can give me.