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I have yet to be in any terrain where ATs are noticeably better than MTs. My MTs can do everything ATs can do plus more.
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I agree with rusty. On my DD rig from my super duty to the f150 ATs. Heck I have 15 inch rims that was thinking about putting a new set of ATs on it for the the ranger in winter months. When I want to go play ill swap tires.... I don't know, Northern Idaho has some pretty harsh weather. I believe in ATs 100% I even like studs, they just get expensive when you get to a size 35 or bigger. So a good AT that I get extra sipping on has never done me wrong. I would never take an AT up into the mountains though.....
 
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Performance will vary greatly with location. Different places have different types of soil and mud or different types of rock or different density/grain size of sand. I hear a lot of people who have tires that work well out in the west who have trouble when they come to the East or vice-versa. There isn't one tire that is equally suited to all conditions everywhere.
 

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You guys must buy some crappy MT tires then if they are really that bad, I have ran MT tires for years and I have never had those problems.
 

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You guys must buy some crappy MT tires then if they are really that bad, I have ran MT tires for years and I have never had those problems.
I had BFG M/T's. They sucked on everything but mud. Wore like shit, were noisy, buried themselves in snow, obviously on hardpack they were fine, but so are my cheapo GT radials. Gravel/sand they would just dig and promptly bury yourself.

M/T's are a poor choice for anything but a dedicated mud bogger/field truck
 

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I had BFG M/T's. They sucked on everything but mud. Wore like shit, were noisy, buried themselves in snow, obviously on hardpack they were fine, but so are my cheapo GT radials. Gravel/sand they would just dig and promptly bury yourself.

M/T's are a poor choice for anything but a dedicated mud bogger/field truck
The MTs I use do great in the snow and sand, pulled several people out of both with them. The don't wear out any quicker than my AT tires did, and they do 10 times better in offroad situations. In over a decade of running MTs on 6 different vehicles I have yet to find a disadvantage over AT tires but plenty of advantages.
 

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The MTs I use do great in the snow and sand, pulled several people out of both with them. The don't wear out any quicker than my AT tires did, and they do 10 times better in offroad situations. In over a decade of running MTs on 6 different vehicles I have yet to find a disadvantage over AT tires but plenty of advantages.
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I can highly recommend the BFG KO2s. The General tires mentioned above are only rated slightly lower and the tread looks identical to the BFGs. I've used the BFGs in some pretty serious off roading and they didn't disappoint. Perhaps not at the level that someone like Eric might do but for what you are talking about doing, the BFGs will be definitely up to the task. The Generals probably would be as well.
I have had Grabbers on my '85 since 2020 and we have 20k on my wife's Bronco with them, I have been very happy with them so far. For my Ranger it was between them and the KO2's, KO2's at the time were like an extra $30/tire.

The only reason I didn't put the Generals on my F-150 is when I got the truck they were backordered in my size.

The tread is similar to a BFG but it is really quite different.

BFG KO2



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Here in Tennessee you need a mud tire. I've already pulled 3 trucks I ride with out on ATs. It slick rocky and muddy here. My MTs have performed great in the snow. Granted we only got about 6 inches tops. I've never wheeled out west so can't give a good accessment of performance out there. But est coast wheeling you need a MT. Yes yes it will wear quicker and be louder on the highway. But if your gonna do serious exploring in TN or east coast you need MTs. If your gonna be driving mainly dirt roads and forest service roads and such ATs may be a better fit. Really depends on how far you push the truck.
 

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SOUTH East coast might require a M/T..

The northeast is all mostly all ledge, and whatever little topsoil we have before you hit said ledge Is usually super sandy and drains really well.. so we hardly know the true definition of MUD. Totally opposite of the south. Down there your soil is way different, much more clay content or something.. you want huge balloon tires to hopefully help you float across the mud-hole.. because it's thick, sticky, and bottomless. Up here.. you want a pizza-cutter that'll dig you down to that solid ledge that'll provide the bite you need to move forward.
 

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SOUTH East coast might require a M/T..

The northeast is all mostly all ledge, and whatever little topsoil we have before you hit said ledge Is usually super sandy and drains really well.. so we hardly know the true definition of MUD. Totally opposite of the south. Down there your soil is way different, much more clay content or something.. you want huge balloon tires to hopefully help you float across the mud-hole.. because it's thick, sticky, and bottomless. Up here.. you want a pizza-cutter that'll dig you down to that solid ledge that'll provide the bite you need to move forward.
I'll take your word for it. Badlands is as far north as I've been wheeling. YET haha. There are several companies making a hybrid MT AT cross. I think Toyo and Nitto for sure. But I know there are others.
 

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I'll take your word for it. Badlands is as far north as I've been wheeling. YET haha. There are several companies making a hybrid MT AT cross. I think Toyo and Nitto for sure. But I know there are others.

It's so rocky up here it's intense. It's not uncommon to need to drill 500+ feet before your well fills up with water. The well at my parents is "only" 450' deep.. but took the company most of 3 days to get through that much ledge.. they were about ready to start over in a different part of the yard right before they hit water. Apparently.. once they finally found success the water shot out of the well Like a fountain for a few more days, my father was getting excited that he was gonna end up with a little pond he could stock with fish.. but the topsoil drains so good his pond dried up pretty quickly.


It's all caused by glaciers way back in the day.
 

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I'll take your word for it. Badlands is as far north as I've been wheeling. YET haha. There are several companies making a hybrid MT AT cross. I think Toyo and Nitto for sure. But I know there are others.
My KO2s ran just fine for everything I was willing to subject the 2011 to there.

I'm of the opinion that the BFG KM3s are kind of a hybrid MT/AT cross. I know some overlanders like them. Since the KO2s have done so well in the winter, I think I might get a set of KM3s to try out.
 

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My KO2s ran just fine for everything I was willing to subject the 2011 to there.

I'm of the opinion that the BFG KM3s are kind of a hybrid MT/AT cross. I know some overlanders like them. Since the KO2s have done so well in the winter, I think I might get a set of KM3s to try out.
I have several riding buddies that run the KM3s. They all love them. I've never asked on tread life but no news is usually good news haha. I had the KO2s in the past and they lasted great and were quiet for a AT on highway. They did how ever struggle a little in deep mud. Did they get me stuck? No but had to use a lot more skinny pedal than others on MTs. Which just ruts out things worse for the next person. Some of the newer ATs have been running a deeper tread with larger style lugs on them for more mud grip. The group I ride with are big fans of the Maxxis RZR tires. The AT has really large deep tread and I've seen them perform really well in all conditions. Now the MTs did seem to do a little better through the soupy stuff bit neither seemed to struggle. I'm building my truck as more of a overland build than them so I will probably go with a AT with my next tire. I've found the capabilities of the Grey Squirrel so now I'll give it a break from the rougher stuff haha before it gives me a break that I have to pay for haha.
 

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