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Genuinely interested in this. I have heard that there's a way to convert the 2.9 to edis or duraspark. Watching to see how this works out. Curious if I can take mine one way or the other.
Is either better than your current megasquirt?

Duraspark is a carb ignition, what I have on my 5.0 actually.
 


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EDIS with Megasquirt shouldn't be a big deal, IIRC. You could do Duraspark, but I don't see the point.
 

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Edis seems to be an option. Is it any better than tfi?
 

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Edis seems to be an option. Is it any better than tfi?
Reliabilty wise maybe. But with your remote TFI probably not.

I doubt youd get any more power and coil packs seem to fail more then distributors.
 

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Reliabilty wise maybe. But with your remote TFI probably not.

I doubt youd get any more power and coil packs seem to fail more then distributors.
More water resistant for what that is worth though.
 

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Reliabilty wise maybe. But with your remote TFI probably not.

I doubt youd get any more power and coil packs seem to fail more then distributors.
How many 100K mile engines still have the original cap and rotor? 0
How many still have the original coil pack? I've seen quite a few.
It's about less maintenance, consistent performance, and getting past the warranty without repairs.
 

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How many 100K mile engines still have the original cap and rotor? 0
How many still have the original coil pack? I've seen quite a few.
It's about less maintenance, consistent performance, and getting past the warranty without repairs.
Rotor/cap is regular maintence.

I was thinking more along the lines of the distributor and guts of the distributor. Not something that costs 30 bucks and takes 2 minutes to change.

Oh and for the record....my 460 made it 100,000 with the original cap/rotor.
 

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The bigger older coil packs are better IMO than the coil over plug coil packs.

I have had to limp home on 7 a couple times thanks to those little $40 piles of fun. Gotta keep a scanner handy so I know which injector to unplug...
 

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There is no universe in which the worst distributorless system wouldn't be better or more reliable than the best distributor system ever made

Originally we were taking about getting the 2.9l computer, distributor and wiring to work on a 4.0l engine, which seems doable

If you go to EDIS, distributorless, then you also go with the whole 4.0l computer and engine wiring harness
 

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There is no universe in which the worst distributorless system wouldn't be better or more reliable than the best distributor system ever made

Originally we were taking about getting the 2.9l computer, distributor and wiring to work on a 4.0l engine, which seems doable

If you go to EDIS, distributorless, then you also go with the whole 4.0l computer and engine wiring harness
Im kinda impartial either way.

But the way i see it they both take a shit at some point and distributors are usually cheaper.
 

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If you go to EDIS, distributorless, then you also go with the whole 4.0l computer and engine wiring harness

The megasquirt gives me the ability to pretty much splice in whatever I want to. ??

If the Edis system is truly better, and wouldn't be too big of a pain in the ass to make work, I could foresee having materials on hand for the next time I lose a TFI module.

On my computer, it would be a different jumper position on the main board, and splicing in whatever I need to under the hood. I think to choose between Edis and TFI in the software it's two or three Mouse clicks
 

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Im kinda impartial either way.

But the way i see it they both take a shit at some point and distributors are usually cheaper.
I kinda like the one $15 coil on my Ranger vs the eight $40 coils on my '150...
 

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Until that $15 coil takes a crap 150 miles from nowhere. LOL

I'm not really a C.O.P. fan, but it does have its advantages in certain situations.
 

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Until that $15 coil takes a crap 150 miles from nowhere. LOL

I'm not really a C.O.P. fan, but it does have its advantages in certain situations.
Yes, but at $15 a piece I can carry a spare and still not have paid for one COP.
 

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Absolutely true. The point was that a single coil failure stops you in your tracks. A COP failure causes a miss and throws a code. You can take spare parts for just about anything and everything, but should you have to?

I think the price of the COPs is ridiculous, FWIW.
 

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