radiator and fan question

[THE H.P FREAK]

One more time for you slow learners

1) Mechanical fan/clutch has much higher cooling capacity than e-fans

Only when your revving the piss out of your engine. Most stay around 2500-3200RPM while driving. My 2400CFM electric fan does that CFM rating ALL THE TIME.

2) Mechanical fan/clutch has much higher reliability than e-fans.

Well in 20 years I've gone through about 4-5 clutch fans. In the last 11 years I've been running electric fans I have not had one problem or failure.

3) E-fans loose efficiency due to mechanical to electric back to mechanical energy conversions

Well that doesn't explain why I pick up MPG, H.P/TQ, and quicker 1/4 mile times with a electric fan.

What most don't understand is once you get up to cruising speed, which around here is 40-50KPH the cooling fan, electric or mechanical is useless. There is way over enough air flow coming through the rad itself from the forward motion of the vehicle cutting through the air. If your vehicle starts to overheat in the 1-2 minutes your sitting at a red light waiting for it to turn green, then your vehicle has other cooling issues. I have not had my electric fan on since late September. That's 4 months I haven't had to waste energy and fuel spinning that stupid clutch fan around. I've got 2 more months before I even have to start thinking about turning it on. I daily drive (hard), TOW, HAUL, and RACE at the DRAGSTRIP. In my applications the electric cooling fan(s) has basically beat the crap out of the clutch/mechanical fans. Sorry if you can't except this but in my case and a ton others here in town and all over the internet it has too.

 

[Bob Ayers]

Only when your revving the piss out of your engine. Most stay around 2500-3200RPM while driving. My 2400CFM electric fan does that CFM rating ALL THE TIME.

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Just to show you that you don't have a clue what you are talking about, your fan IS NOT A 2400CFM fan!!!

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=DER-16516&N=700+400434+4294838842+115&autoview=sku

All you do is LIE


You can't believe a single thing you say!!!!!!!!!!

 

[THE H.P FREAK]

HI!... ya try this one...............

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=DER-16217&N=700+115&autoview=sku

I don't call it a 17" fan since the fan itself only measures 16.2".

So ya BOB, feel stupid yet?

Just say no to clutch fans..........bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa1, bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

 

[Bob Ayers]

HI!... ya try this one...............

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=DER-16217&N=700+115&autoview=sku

I don't call it a 17" fan since the fan itself only measures 16.2".

So ya BOB, feel stupid yet?

Just say no to clutch fans..........bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa1, bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Gee, you don't even know which fan you have!!!!! That's 2400CFM, NOT RPM!!!

The 16" is only 1680RPM!!!!!


LIAR!!!!

Give it up!!!!!!

 

[THE H.P FREAK]

Gee, you don't even know which fan you have!!!!! That's 2400CFM, NOT RPM!!!

The 16" is only 1680RPM!!!!!


LIAR!!!!

Give it up!!!!!!

HI!... Bob you need to read before you post. I never said it was RPM. I said my fan has 2400CFM. You even quoted me which really makes you look like a fool! LOL!

 

[Bob Ayers]

"2007" RANGER SPORT.
DERALE 16" ELECTRIC FAN,

 

[THE H.P FREAK]

"2007" RANGER SPORT.
DERALE 16" ELECTRIC FAN,

HI!... Your point? The fan blade measures 16.2 inches. That in my book is a 16 inch fan. The fan shroud is 17 inches. Not my fault DERALE measures their fans with U.S math. bwaaaaaaaaa!

 

[Bob Ayers]

Bottom line, the OP IS NOT GOING WITH AN E-FAN!!!!!


do i need to run an efan for clearance, the answer is no. this should settle everything.

 

[THE H.P FREAK]

HI!... ELECTRIC FAN 1, BOB 0..........

 

[99RangerBoss]

efans

efans also let your motor warm up fast which is usually a big deal in a manitoban winter by not blowing all that cold air back at your motor thats trying to warm up, its also nice because their pretty quiet even the new gmc sierras come with twin electric fans so there must be a reason for this because a mechanical must be cheaper too because its so simple.

Canadians also make better beer i think we all can agree that american beer is nothing but piss and fizz!

 

[THE H.P FREAK]

HI!... Ya forgot about the beer thing. lol! I'm in a border city. The yanks come over here and think they can out drink us. It never works out good for them. 10 of their beers are equivalent to like 5 of ours.


Electric fans also have the benefit of being able to be run while the engine is not. Great for the dragstrip, that you can cool down in the pits. On my F-150 drag truck, I use both cooling fans, tranny cooler fan and electric water pump while in the pits. This allows me to cool down WAY faster than my opponent with a clutch fan, making me run faster and more consistent, while he gets heat soak. I luv it.

 

[99RangerBoss]

lol all the yanks iv ever met at the bars out here can't handle the booze and their still drinking budweiser which is gutless as we all know not to mention they try to act tough and end up writing a cheque their butt can't cash!!!

 

[Tee Rev]

Holy crap!!


Bob, look up the word bigot ..... Now go look in the mirror.


I'm done with you! & I'm actually dumbfounded!! I now believe that someone can be too stupid to realize how stupid they really are!

Good show!

 

[Sasquatch_Ryda]

GM only uses electric fans on the v6 and the smallest of their v8's in the 1500's. As soon as you step up to the bigger v8 they go back to a clutch fan. Just and FYI.

 

[Will]

okay, im pretty sure everybody here knows that im attempting a 3.3 turbo build. i looked at my trk the other day (constantly eyeing things looking for potential hangups and fig ways around them so i can do this as smoothly as possible.) looking at my radiator and remembering how much rust etc is in it (cant use the standard drain its so nasty.) im considering upgrading my radiator. ive been digging around the forum and it seems that a 4.0 dual core radiator is the way to go, jy of course in good condition. it will fit my 3.0 w/ no problem correct? another thing, since ill be plumbing for turbo will i have to remove my standard fan and have to go to an efan for clearance? or should i stick to the mechanical fan and just go w/ a stronger fan design for better cooling efficiency? all input is greatly appreciated.

He did not ask which was better. He asked (after his unanswered radiator question) if he needed an E-fan for clearance and if not, was there a better mechanical version.

I enjoy a discussion, but this has been immature garbage and I hope it's over.