351 C.....yeah i know

[fordwheelinman]

Wrong, the blocks are not the same. Totally different design and casting.

 

[baddad457]

The overall length is the same or nearly so. The timing case extension is about the thickness of the Windsor cover. Flat steel cover on the Cleveland with the pump bolted directly to this. Bore size & spacing the same for both.

 

[SRL]

There's a 351 Cleveland truck on Youtube. Anyone here belong to it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0wW7fQiAts

I've been drooling over 351C's for a while now and seeing vids like that make me really want to build one. It would likely go into a late 60's Mustang or Cougar instead of a Ranger. I consider myself to be a bit old skool and find buying and assembling new performance aftermarket cores to be too easy (and waaay too expensive for me). That's why I've gradually fallen in love with the 351C. An OEM fire-breathing dragon that would just need a cleaning up of the stock block and heads, a DIY rebuild with hopefully non-overbore pistons, perhaps drilling for 4-bolt mains if not already equipped, then cam, carb, and exhaust to match. Perhaps a new intake, especially if you've got a 2bbl and want 4.

Not as streetable as a Windsor, but will still kick ass with factory heads for those on a tight budget.

 

[Sunk]

Nice.... That one had a 5 spd behind it.

 

[baddad457]

There's a 351 Cleveland truck on Youtube. Anyone here belong to it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0wW7fQiAts

I've been drooling over 351C's for a while now and seeing vids like that make me really want to build one. It would likely go into a late 60's Mustang or Cougar instead of a Ranger. I consider myself to be a bit old skool and find buying and assembling new performance aftermarket cores to be too easy (and waaay too expensive for me). That's why I've gradually fallen in love with the 351C. An OEM fire-breathing dragon that would just need a cleaning up of the stock block and heads, a DIY rebuild with hopefully non-overbore pistons, perhaps drilling for 4-bolt mains if not already equipped, then cam, carb, and exhaust to match. Perhaps a new intake, especially if you've got a 2bbl and want 4.

Not as streetable as a Windsor, but will still kick ass with factory heads for those on a tight budget.

Not as streetable ? BS. And you won't need to add 4 bolt mains. If you're looking for a std bore core, I've got one for sale. $300 for the whole thing. std bore, std crank, just as Ford built it in 1972. Jumped time, timing chain stretched. Top it with 2 bbl Aussie heads or quench 4 bbl heads plus intake/cam/carb and you've got 400 horses without trying.

 

[Sunk]

Yeah I agree, Clevelands are very streetable. And I have seen a number of motors built to over 400 hp with just 2 bolt blocks.

 

[Will]

THIS
is a decent book. I bought it in '91 I think when I first got a 351C. I was into my Duster at the time and got a motor with 4V quench heads on it as a trade. I ended up getting rid of the Duster and had that 351 in 2 cars before I broke it. I would say it's very streetable, but that depends on what you consider streetable. It's not as good of everyday motor as others. It's an amazing motor if you are willing to spin it. It will happinly go 1,000rpm higher than any other old V8 I've been around. It just needs a lot of cam, a single-plane intake and a 750 double-pumper, headers and 4.56 gears and you have a contender.

 

[baddad457]

It doesn't need a lot of cam to spin it. The factory knew this when they equipped the std 4 bbl motor with a surprisingly small cam (on the intake side) You can do more with less cam with those huge 4 bbl heads.

 

[Will]

Air has mass and need time to accelerate. The valve has to be open long enough. The factory valvetrain will not spin that to 7,000rpm. My motor pulled to 7,000rpm with an Erson Hi-Flo II--duration at .050-240/240, .540 valve lift. The stock cam was good for maybe 5,500 but it didn't pull nearly as hard up to that point. It really fades after about 5,000. There's a hell of a difference, especially about 3500.

 

[SRL]

Not as streetable ? BS. And you won't need to add 4 bolt mains. If you're looking for a std bore core, I've got one for sale. $300 for the whole thing. std bore, std crank, just as Ford built it in 1972. Jumped time, timing chain stretched. Top it with 2 bbl Aussie heads or quench 4 bbl heads plus intake/cam/carb and you've got 400 horses without trying.

I guess by streetable I really meant power band. The 4bbls only really woke up in high rpm's. A guy I know has a cleveland in a '67 fairlane and a C6 behind it and even with a hi-stall t.c. he still wants to convert to a 5spd to get more power down from standing starts.

Too bad you're too far away from me otherwise I'd take that motor off your hands. The cleveland is cheaper horsepower which definitely floats my boat!!!

 

[baddad457]

My brother had a 71 Torino GT with the stock 4 bbl quench headed motor. Backed by an FMX and 3.00 rear. I had no lack of bottom end. You can use less cam with the Cleveland than a Windsor and get the same results. If you want good bottom end with 4 bbl heads, just use less cam and a dual plane intake. Same as with any other motor, only with the Cleveland, less cam is needed.

 

[baddad457]

I guess by streetable I really meant power band. The 4bbls only really woke up in high rpm's. A guy I know has a cleveland in a '67 fairlane and a C6 behind it and even with a hi-stall t.c. he still wants to convert to a 5spd to get more power down from standing starts.

What intake and carb is he running ?

 

[fordwheelinman]

 

[baddad457]

 

[SRL]

What intake and carb is he running ?

Don't know off hand.

Thanks for the tips on the 351C. It is definitely gonna be my next motor, but whenever that happens I don't know.