School me on sanding and buffing

[rickcdewitt]

I've heard that about having to wait awhile before waxing a new paint job, but when I had the front of my old Ranger redone after smacking a deer, it was baked after it was sprayed (140-150F I think). Guy said I could wax it that day if I wanted, I did, and it still looks like new several years later. Depends on who paints it and how much it costs I guess.

if you bake the paint it cures it faster than would normally happen.it makes it harder faster too so it won't scratch as deep at first.wax doesn't let the paint breath,with is supposed to interfere with the cure and also possibly trap solvents and create blisters.on the down side- who wants to bake the weatherstripping and other rubber on your car?not great for longetivity

 

[rickcdewitt]

+1. this is from the old lacquer and enamel days. Modern BC/CC finishes are fine to wax.

no sorry this is from the modern urethane days if you don't bake the paint.i'm sure the guys i worked with at a few body shops know better( guys who paint custom porsche$,lamborghini'$,and lots of other custom car$,not that cheap crankster shop you know where you got a 1500$ paint job) i never did cheap paint jobs,a good one is 5,000$ or more

 

[Jason]

no sorry this is from the modern urethane days if you don't bake the paint.i'm sure the guys i worked with at a few body shops know better( guys who paint custom porsche$,lamborghini'$,and lots of other custom car$,not that cheap crankster shop you know where you got a 1500$ paint job) i never did cheap paint jobs,a good one is 5,000$ or more

Who does paint without baking it anymore.

No one is ever wrong here are they?

 

[bottledgt]

alo of people dont bake the paint. mainly cause they have no way to bake it

 

[rickcdewitt]

Who does paint without baking it anymore.

everyone who doesn't have a $pendy paint booth(hundreds of thousands). and these days the epa only lets you put in the fancy booths when you want to build one.

i'm wong all the time,i just have the inkling that i know a little more about paint than you.

you are right about the old paints,they take a long time to cure.

 

[rickcdewitt]

No one is ever wrong here are they?

i bet those 3 bodyshops do collision work all day on new cars,a far cry from a resto with a flawless complete. its all shades of grey,there are a lot of ways to get your crap shiny,and a lot of ways to sabotage the job on accident

 

[bottledgt]

Who does paint without baking it anymore.

No one is ever wrong here are they?

actually, no one is ever wrong on here. i laugh constantly at reading this site

 

[AKBroncoII]

Lets keep it clean here guys. I will post up some results when I get it all done. It has been taking me a while because every time I get started it starts to rain. Hopefully I can get a little time in today if it clears up for a bit.

 

[multiranger]

I've heard that about having to wait awhile before waxing a new paint job, but when I had the front of my old Ranger redone after smacking a deer, it was baked after it was sprayed (140-150F I think). Guy said I could wax it that day if I wanted, I did, and it still looks like new several years later. Depends on who paints it and how much it costs I guess.

PPG says 90 days to wax.. Wax can keep in the solvents.. which inturn can cause solvent pop and make the paint look like crap. Heated booths are for production to move more jobs per day through nothing more nothing less... I can paint one just as good or better in an open shop than anyone can in a heated booth...

 

[multiranger]

Yes it does. I've always had good luck with 3M's Perfect-It line. Wash, Compound (If it's really bad), Swirl Mark Remover, Final Glaze, then Wax.

This guy knows the way to a nice buff job. also to add to it hold the buffer flat. move at a slow stedy pace and work the compond or polish in... dont turn the buffer up on edge and sling it around.. that isn't buffing that is I don't know what it is but it ain't buffing..