Need some opinions TTB unloading problems

[Northidahotrailblazer]

I haven’t weighed it this year. Since the V8 this winter but I don’t think it’s changed that much the diesel and SBF were pretty close to the same weight. It was over 6,000 pounds, with my tent and everything in it, it was lighter this year, no RTT, not all the camping gear. Idk, I just want it a little more stable. I’m going to build bumpers, rear bumper simple and light, front bumper I’m going to put some weight into it, but nothing extreme. I think I just have to tune the rig a little more for what I’m going to be doing with it. I didn’t need, my spare, or all my crap on the rear. Here’s a video of me climbing haha

 

[Northidahotrailblazer]

 

[4x4junkie]

That’s an interesting setup. I need to go back and study that some more.

Yea it certainly made a big difference. Although the longer your wheelbase (also, the stiffer your coil springs), the less it will do for you since weight shift to the rear becomes less-pronounced with more wheelbase. But if it feels to you like your frontend is unloading too much on climbs, then certainly it still can help.

One thing I would change in it's design though is to use 3" pulleys instead of 2½" (again can be had from places like Ace or True Value hardware stores). The radius on the 2½ is just small enough to eventually cause strand fatigue within the cable, so have to replace the cable every few years/few dozen offroad outings. 3" pulley should solve this.

What tire did you find in a 34x9.50? It's hard enough finding 34x10.50 tires

Interco Super Swamper TSL.
Not a tire I would recommend for full-time on-road use (loud, harsh ride, vibrates (hard to balance/not very round), wears out real fast), but it makes a great lighter-weight spare that is close to the same diameter of my other tires.

I'm starting to see a few other "pizza-cutter" sizes appearing too, like 35x10.50R17 (Kenda), 35x11.50R17 (Nitto, Falken), etc. Toyo has a 34x10.50R17 as well. Most all of them seem to be for 17" (and maybe larger) wheels though.

 

[4x4junkie]

I haven’t weighed it this year. Since the V8 this winter but I don’t think it’s changed that much the diesel and SBF were pretty close to the same weight. It was over 6,000 pounds, with my tent and everything in it, it was lighter this year, no RTT, not all the camping gear. Idk, I just want it a little more stable. I’m going to build bumpers, rear bumper simple and light, front bumper I’m going to put some weight into it, but nothing extreme. I think I just have to tune the rig a little more for what I’m going to be doing with it. I didn’t need, my spare, or all my crap on the rear. Here’s a video of me climbing haha

Wow dude!
Ok, I just watched that... Throughout the whole video, but especially the first 3-4 seconds, your passenger tire is totally steered left, and your driver side tire steered right. That is 95% of your problem right there... Your tires are fighting against each other.
You need to go look at that steering page I linked here a few posts back.
I would not go a step further with anything else until you get that straightened out first.

What lift are you running? 4-inch?

 

[Northidahotrailblazer]

Wow dude!
Ok, I just watched that... Throughout the whole video, but especially the first 3-4 seconds, your passenger tire is totally steered left, and your driver side tire steered right. That is 95% of your problem right there... Your tires are fighting against each other.
You need to go look at that steering page I linked here a few posts back.
I would not go a step further with anything else until you get that straightened out first.

What lift are you running? 4-inch?

It’s around a 3 - 3.5. I had 4” coils on it but it was to tall, so I did early bronco 3.5 lift coils and it got my steering pretty straight across.
I need to read more on your steering page, I don’t have a picture but my steering is pretty much straight, I put a 4 inch drop pitman arm on it, and going to the shorter coils helped my alignment guy get things right. I wish super runner steering was still available.

 

[4x4junkie]

It’s around a 3 - 3.5. I had 4” coils on it but it was to tall, so I did early bronco 3.5 lift coils and it got my steering pretty straight across.
I need to read more on your steering page, I don’t have a picture but my steering is pretty much straight, I put a 4 inch drop pitman arm on it, and going to the shorter coils helped my alignment guy get things right. I wish super runner steering was still available.

Yeah them killing the Superrunner does suck. It wasn't perfect out of the box, but it did save a lot of having to fabricate from scratch.
Fortunately even from scratch it's not an overly difficult setup to build (a.k.a. K-link steering). One thing important though is that the idler arm alignment is correct so that the centerlink won't bind through it's travel (axis matches that of your sector shaft, and of your current pitman arm dimensions).

Ruff Stuff Specialties should have most of the parts needed to build one from scratch, although seems you may have to dig around the site a bit to find everything.
Bushed DOM Sleeves that can be used to replicate the idler arm, for example. They should have all the DOM tubing too. The material to make the bracket that mounts the tie rods to the centerlink may have to come from a metal supply house... It needs to be ¾" thick, and you'll need a standard-taper TRE reamer if you'll be using TREs (maybe you might have some of this left over from your SAS on your other rig).

You said you put a "4 inch" drop pitman arm on... Did you mean a regular dropped arm or the Skyjacker FA600 arm? Asking because the FA600 is the true 4-inch drop arm, while the one sold as a "4 inch" arm is really only 2-inch drop (and would cause your wheels to toe-in like that in your video). The amount of pitman arm drop needs to match with the drop amount of your axle pivot drop brackets (this is all explained on that steering page, along with setting the TTB ride height).

 

[Curious Hound]

I've been working on drawings for the K steering setup using hiem joints,heavy wall DOM tubing and 1 ton TREs. Was hoping to finish and rebuild mine this summer. But my solar camping project got in the way.