Looking in to doing a 302 swap, NEED info???

[HOT_ROD_CAR]

Unless you REALLY need the overdrive, I wouldn't bother with the AOD in stock form. A lentech valvebody will re-route the fluids to allow a 1-2-D/OD shift pattern vs. the 1-D-OD (uses a solenoid and switch for OD). The inner input shaft responsible for the direct drive of 3rd and 4th is also a weak point. When shifting hard from a torque converter powered 2nd gear to a direct drive 3rd gear, you can snap the shaft. A lentech valvebody will hold 1st and reverse bands (which allows 3rd gear to be powered by the outer torque converter shaft) but your overdrive is still weak.

I chose a C4 because its smaller, lighter, and draws about 18-20 hp instead of the AOD's bloodsucking 55-60!

Will a C4 handle the horse power/torque of a 351C for daily driving and weekend drag racing?

How much hp does a C6 draw from the engine? I've heard that a C6 is more durabable but less efficient than a C4.

I am removing the AOD from my 351C Ranger and I am going to buy a C4 or a C6, not sure which yet. Open to suggestions. Anyone?

 

[bullitproofranger]

Trust me, it doesn't have Boss 302 heads. But look at the valve covers anyway. Windsors have 6 bolts holding the covers to the heads. Clevelands have 8. 85-90's should be a roller block, but depending on what it's originally out of, may or may not have a roller cam.

Well my friend (who is giving me the 302) said he bought it from a guy who had it in his mustang(fox body?) and I think actually put the cleveland heads on himself, and it's got an aftermarket cam in it, so definetley ain't completely stock.

 

[baddad457]

Count the valve cover bolts. If it does have Cleveland heads, then it's definately a keeper.

 

[Gotta_gofast]

Will a C4 handle the horse power/torque of a 351C for daily driving and weekend drag racing?

How much hp does a C6 draw from the engine? I've heard that a C6 is more durabable but less efficient than a C4.

I am removing the AOD from my 351C Ranger and I am going to buy a C4 or a C6, not sure which yet. Open to suggestions. Anyone?

For budget, a C6 will handle the torque of a cleveland with just a shift kit and a cooling upgrade. But the C6 takes just about the same power to turn as the AOD.

For a little bit bigger budget, you can upgrade the C4 to handle a street 351c. Invest in a new valvebody, high performance clutches and bands, and again the cooling and your C4 will handle 400hp.

For me, I opted for a TCI super streetfighter C4 with manual valvbody (650hp rating) for a hair over 1200 bones. Why? Well, I've got future plans to push that limit...

 

[HOT_ROD_CAR]

For budget, a C6 will handle the torque of a cleveland with just a shift kit and a cooling upgrade. But the C6 takes just about the same power to turn as the AOD.

For a little bit bigger budget, you can upgrade the C4 to handle a street 351c. Invest in a new valvebody, high performance clutches and bands, and again the cooling and your C4 will handle 400hp.

For me, I opted for a TCI super streetfighter C4 with manual valvbody (650hp rating) for a hair over 1200 bones. Why? Well, I've got future plans to push that limit...

I really appreciate the information. Thank you.

 

[bullitproofranger]

Count the valve cover bolts. If it does have Cleveland heads, then it's definately a keeper.

I haven't seen/got the 302 yet, but I'll remember to count the valve cover bolts when I do get it

 

[originalnitro]

Do these headers work??? http://www.jegs.com/i/Hedman/500/89500/10002/-1?parentProductId=744779 Anybody know???

I would stay away from these, are a bad fit on my 92

I ran a C4 and an AOD trans for 2 years withs stock driveshaft replaced the slip yoke that had balancer for a shorter one with out it and the stock 7.5 rear end 3.45 gears and got 21 mpg. engine was a 311.

 

[bullitproofranger]

Guess what, I went to go look at the motor, and I couldn't find. I don't know what happened to it, but the guy I was going to get it from hadn't seen the motor in like ten years, and he said it might not be there though.

 

[bullitproofranger]

I'm probably going to look for another motor, If I went carbed, how hard would it be to adapt the carb setup to a EFI-type fuel pump? Oh yea, originalnitro thanks for the info, did you get 21 mpg with the AOD, or the C4, and what headers did you use for your 302/347?

 

[originalnitro]

I'm probably going to look for another motor, If I went carbed, how hard would it be to adapt the carb setup to a EFI-type fuel pump? Oh yea, originalnitro thanks for the info, did you get 21 mpg with the AOD, or the C4, and what headers did you use for your 302/347?

use a bypass regilator and the trans was AOD and a 302 bored 60 over the headers are the P.O.S. headman 89500 have seen hookers 6802hkr in the past but now summit cant get them still looking for a good set.carb was a 670 street avenger.

 

[bullitproofranger]

Thanks originalnitro, if I use a carb I think it'll be an edelbrock performer 500cfm or 600cfm carb, I think I found the hooker headers #6802 on jegs which is #520-6802 on their website, oh, and as far as the electrical system, how did you solve that?

P.S.-originalnitro, did you have a 2.3, 2.9, 3.0, or a 4.0 originaly?

 

[bullitproofranger]

Oh yea, I have a friend who has a wrecked 67' stang in his drive, it has a three speed auto behind a 200ci I6, I assume it is a c4 that it has a windsor v8 bolt pattern, does anybody know if it would work??? and going about 55-60 mph highway average, with a 3.73 rear end, would I get maybe 18-23 mpg if I was easy on the pedal?

 

[baddad457]

Oh yea, I have a friend who has a wrecked 67' stang in his drive, it has a three speed auto behind a 200ci I6, I assume it is a c4 that it has a windsor v8 bolt pattern, does anybody know if it would work??? and going about 55-60 mph highway average, with a 3.73 rear end, would I get maybe 18-23 mpg if I was easy on the pedal?

The C-4 will work, but you're not going to get that kind of mileage on the highway with 3.73's. Mine's got a carbed Explorer level 5.0 with no overdrive, 3.73's and 28" tires (tire height determines the final drive ratio too) and it gets about 15-16 mpg.

 

[originalnitro]

Thanks originalnitro, if I use a carb I think it'll be an edelbrock performer 500cfm or 600cfm carb, I think I found the hooker headers #6802 on jegs which is #520-6802 on their website, oh, and as far as the electrical system, how did you solve that?

P.S.-originalnitro, did you have a 2.3, 2.9, 3.0, or a 4.0 originaly?

mine was originaly a 2.3, will have to check JEGS,if you want to keep simple get a points type distributor and a pertronix ignitor 2 wire hookup
i'm running a MSD dist, 6AL box, blaster 2 coil easy to wire but much higher price.

 

[bullitproofranger]

mine was originaly a 2.3, will have to check JEGS,if you want to keep simple get a points type distributor and a pertronix ignitor 2 wire hookup
i'm running a MSD dist, 6AL box, blaster 2 coil easy to wire but much higher price.

Yea I think I'll keep it simple, and do you think I could get a hold of a 3.54 or so axle pretty easy(sorry about so many questions, I'm kind of an ametuer as far as ford v8s and ect.)