healthcare reform??

[stegomon]

what does this really mean for every one...and i dont want to hear about this natzi crap

 

[R***A**N**G**E***R]

what does this really mean for every one...and i dont want to hear about this natzi crap

It don't meen SHIT!!!!

14 states TODAY have already filed law suites on the grounds of being unconstitutional and illegal!!! These are ATTORNEY GENERALS filling suit and more will come QUICKLY.

Before you know it the new health reform will be repealed and GONE WITH THE WIND!! Especially after november when ALL the liberals are voted out of office and the republicans will once again be running the show.

Health reform will not last as it currently is!! HIDE AND WATCH

 

[kimcrwbr1]

I really really hope you are right It was crooked the way it passed and all tose who voted yes should be both ashamed and voted out of office. Right now not much will happen but they will slowly jack up taxes under a whole slough of new programs but they wont call them taxes they will just take more money from everyone just watch your bills go up and question everything. Then in 2014 everyone will be required to have approved health insurance which will be monitored monthly by the IRS and fines will be assessed by the IRS and they will have the power to attack every account you own all your property basically they will take over your life if you dont buy their insurance. You can say I am crying wolf but it is now law and they are authorized to collect by any means necessary.

 

[Hopman]

I think that were just plain screwed anyway you slice it. It's jusy proof that the US congress is so effin' outta touch that the only clue they thought they had is outta date.

There's only one solution to this cluster f&%$,: Chuck Norris for president!!!

 

[Ranger44]

He'd just stare at a problem and it would fix itself

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I don't know if it was right or wrong (lots of propaganda out there going both ways) but the health care system in the US does NEED reformed.

We spend the most money on healthcare of any other UN country and get the worst... it isn't pretty.

 

[Ozwynn]

actually we have the best health care in the world providing you can afford it. In all the world where do wealthy foreigners go to get the best.

You want health care reform ...... do away with lawyers.

 

[LearjetMinako]

Don't want it. Didn't need it. I pay for my health insurance. Now I will be paying for mine and everyone elses as well. I don't make much as it is and the government will just take more from us while everything else increases in costs.

The last President election was the first time I voted. I will be doing a lot more voting now. Along with jury duty since now I'm registered.

 

[BlackBII]

I pay for my own insurance, not my neighbors. Works for me.

 

[TheTopher]

+1 to the whole thread. No need for me to repeat what everybody has said. Obama obviously doesn't want to listen.

 

[skippy]

What does it mean? It means you belong to the Gov't now,you have lost a huge chunk of your freedom.

 

[swansong]

I don't know much about politics or health insurance, but from what I gather I don't like this bill (law now)..... I can understand the part about preventing insurance companies from denying people with pre-existing conditions. But giving/forcing health insurance to all that don't have it? Most employers offer decent health coverage right? and for those that don't people can pay for private insurance right? Soooo by that rational the majority (I'm sure not all tho, im sure theres some poor souls that need it) of uninsured don't work and cant pay for their own, and are therefore unproductive members of society. Yet they get bailed out by that same society. (hmm who else got bailed out despite their own actions putting them in a shithole...) Oh yeah and its costs a trillion dollars. yay

 

[AllanD]

I don't know if it was right or wrong (lots of propaganda out there going both ways) but the health care system in the US does NEED reformed.

We spend the most money on healthcare of any other UN country and get the worst... it isn't pretty.

Yeah and the people who fed yyou those LIES try to claim that the healthcare system in ENGLAND that recently mis-medicated a patient and let him DIE of dehydration "works", that the health system in Canada was so great that one of their provincial premiers came to the US for simple heart surgery, that CUBA has a better health system than the US...

BULLSHIT, anyone repeating those lies in my presence is going to get some "medical treatment" from a trauma surgeon trying to repair what
I do to them.

In the US we have the highest percentages of ANY type of advanced
medical treatment and equipment of ANY nation ANYWHERE

The shortest waiting time for ANY treatment of any nation ANYWHERE


So tell me, Why does it need to be reformed?

Have you ever been refused care?

where the US has a problem is on who pays for it AFTER the patient
has been treated, and they want to take those decisions away from the doctors because the government ends up footing the bills

But NOBODY is being refused or denied treatment..... YET!


The government has been running a Ponzi Scheme, then in the 1960's they expanded the scheme with Medicare.

Since then their scheme has gone from having a surplus to
having a growing defecit. and now it's busted.

This is all a big money grab to cover up that fact...

Compared to the government Bernie Madoff was playing with pocket change.

It is pure myth that there is a "Social Security trust fund"
it has never exsisted, it was all supported by the money
they were taking in and with the big bubble of people
(the Baby Boomers) about to start collecting and without
a MAJOR cash infusion...

It isn't "Nazi" it's communism.

but in truth the main difference between the various totalitarian
"-isms" is the Rhetoric (a euphamism for "Bullshit") they spew at
the people.

This nation is not nor has it ever been a democracy
frankly if you told me to my face that you wanted to
turn it into a "Democracy" I'd kill you before you could
step out of your foorprints.

The founding fathers KNEW "Democracies" don't work
so they set up a "Constitutionally regulated republic"
If you *think* it is anything else take your highschool diploma
and burn it or use it to wipe you ass, because that's all it's worth.

Diluded peple have been told lies

Just because people win an agenda keep repeating lies doesn't
make lies into truth

"Consensus" simply means a larger percentge believe smething, not that it's "True"

Truth has a way of comming back to haunt liars.

Personally I'd prefer to have a sharp knife and a license to cut out tongues.

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[JC 97]

What does it mean? It means you belong to the Gov't now,you have lost a huge chunk of your freedom.

Doesn't everyone with a ss# belong to the gov't already? How much freedom do we really have anyway?

 

[AllanD]

We HAD the freedom to say "NO"

Now they are ordering us to buy something.

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