E-85 Gasoline

[adsm08]

so if im getting this straight you guys are putting down e85 just because you cant run it easily in a ranger?

No, I'm putting it down because it is inefficient to produce, it messes with food prices, is highly corrosive, separates out and then collects moisture if not used fast enough (if I drive my B2 every day to work and back it takes me a month to use a full tank), it chews up catalytic converters, and you can't run it easily in ANY vehicle, even ones that are rated for it.

 

[3.0ranger1227]

Quick test for any of you that don't believe him. Get a glass jar and fill it with E85. Leave it open some where it won't cause problems. Let us know how much water you collect after a few days. Then think about that going into the engine.


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[exbass94]

All gas sold here in CT is E10. There is not a single station in the entire state that sells ethanol-free gas, and it's been that way for well over a decade. I have NEVER had any fuel-related problems in any of my vehicles or power equipment. My gas mileage would probably be better if it wasn't there, but that's pretty much the only benefit I would see.

Some people may have had some problems with it, but in general, it's perfectly ok to use and you are far more likely to NOT have any problems with it. I think the problems with ethanol have been grossly exaggerated and the whole thing has been blown way out of proportion.

 

[Lucifer sam]

No, I'm putting it down because it is inefficient to produce, it messes with food prices, is highly corrosive, separates out and then collects moisture if not used fast enough (if I drive my B2 every day to work and back it takes me a month to use a full tank), it chews up catalytic converters, and you can't run it easily in ANY vehicle, even ones that are rated for it.

ok fair enough.

I just see it as cheap alternative to running race gas.

 

[3.0ranger1227]

All gas sold here in CT is E10. There is not a single station in the entire state that sells ethanol-free gas, and it's been that way for well over a decade. I have NEVER had any fuel-related problems in any of my vehicles or power equipment. My gas mileage would probably be better if it wasn't there, but that's pretty much the only benefit I would see.

Some people may have had some problems with it, but in general, it's perfectly ok to use and you are far more likely to NOT have any problems with it. I think the problems with ethanol have been grossly exaggerated and the whole thing has been blown way out of proportion.

Do you own any vehicles or power equipment with open fuel systems? I.E. open vents? You should see the crap that we get in the tanks and fuel lines on the boats.

Problem #1: Ethanol turns to water, water allows algae to breed. Algae clogs fuel filters and fuel lines and boat stops running.

Problem #2: Some older boats have fiberglass fuel tanks. Ethanol breaks down the fiberglass, fiberglass goes into the fuel lines and filters, clogs them. Then the tank disintegrates and you have a big problem.

Problem #3: Ethanol breaks down the fuel lines themselves in the boats that were built before they knew that we needed to make alcohol resistant fuel lines. Rubber breaks down and clogs everything, leaks start.

I have been there when all of these things happened. It's not pretty. Some of the older engines you can crank the carbs way rich to make up for the lack of fuel. The newer EFI engines you're stuck with what you have. And that's just with E10.


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[Froggmann]

Some people may have had some problems with it, but in general, it's perfectly ok to use and you are far more likely to NOT have any problems with it. I think the problems with ethanol have been grossly exaggerated and the whole thing has been blown way out of proportion.

I agree 100%. I use E-85 in my Fox Mustang in place of injector cleaner a couple times a year--about 3 gallons to a tank. Does wonders for the car, been doing this for years with zero negative side effects.

My ATV has been running on E-85 for 3 years with ALL the stock fuel system components still in place, all I did was rejet it and tune the carb. Stock fuel lines, needle valve, accel pump, tank, etc. Zero corrosion, no water issues, nothing. Everything is spotless when I pull it out of storage after sitting for 6 months with fuel in it.

Ethanol gets a bad rap.

BTW--I work as a small engine tech, I see fuel issues daily. I think Ethanol is a great fuel.

 

[adsm08]

ok fair enough.

I just see it as cheap alternative to running race gas.

And if you are looking for a cheap alternative to race gas it is great. I don't deal with nor care about anything that runs on race gas. I work on people's DD vehicles, the ones that just run to work, the grocery store, and home again and don't need to do it at 220 MPH with compression ratios approaching what you would find in a worn out Cummins.

 

[6.2]

But fast is fun.
I'm gonna drop a motor in my truck that runs on methanol.

 

[GoodOld85BlueBalls]

And if you are looking for a cheap alternative to race gas it is great. I don't deal with nor care about anything that runs on race gas. I work on people's DD vehicles, the ones that just run to work, the grocery store, and home again and don't need to do it at 220 MPH with compression ratios approaching what you would find in a worn out Cummins.

Compression ratios approaching a worn out Cummins! That's freaking awesome

 

[adsm08]

But fast is fun.
I'm gonna drop a motor in my truck that runs on methanol.

Drive a lifted B2. Fast is not fun. Slow is not fun. Heck, getting in the darn thing was not that much fun.

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

Drive a lifted B2. Fast is not fun. Slow is not fun. Heck, getting in the darn thing was not that much fun.

Now now, be nice to the lifted BII crowd!

I don't mind the fact that I have to climb into my choptop (it's in the process of growing another inch or two yet). I will agree though, fast is NOT fun in those. Even slow is not always fun (I spun out once in it doing 35-40 mph, summertime and hit a patch of oil on the road, despite my best efforts, it spun a couple times then shot out of control right towards a hillside, good thing it was a lifted BII - rocketed right up the hillside till it was practically sitting on the rear bumper before it stopped, didn't hurt a thing other than putting my heart in my throat.)

But climbing in the monster? Hell yea!

 

[Jraymer360]

The problem is that we are NOT learning, the idiots just keep doing the same things. Well, so what that it isn't working now... we just haven't been able to do it enough....

riiiiight.... that's like saying that if you smash your finger with a hammer, it's not going to hurt the next time... wrong, it will ALWAYS hurt when you smash your finger. One of those natural laws that doesn't change by repetition.

I Think he meant something more along the lines of...if you smash your finger with a hammer, you at least attempt to be a little more careful to not hit your finger again..unless you're an idiot

 

[adsm08]

Now now, be nice to the lifted BII crowd!

To be fair, I think the particular unit in question here is poorly done and has some front end issues.

It gets some really scary death-wobble at 30 MPH, hops through tight turns but it doesn't rub, and the brakes are not up to the tires on it. Frankly, I'd fail the think for PSI just on the brake performance alone.

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

To be fair, I think the particular unit in question here is poorly done and has some front end issues.

It gets some really scary death-wobble at 30 MPH, hops through tight turns but it doesn't rub, and the brakes are not up to the tires on it. Frankly, I'd fail the think for PSI just on the brake performance alone.

That could do it....

Mine stops just fine with a D-28 front (single piston calipers) and 9" drums in the back on 33s. It'll do 60 mph just fine, but over that the doors start rattling like they want to flap in the breeze (I suspect my door seals are partly to blame).

 

[LearjetMinako]

I believe ethonal can become a valiable fuel source, just that we're doing it wrong. There are better sources for making ethonal than corn. What about switch grass? And what happened to making biodiesel out of algea? Seperate the oil from algea, one goes to making biodiesel, the rest to organic cattle feed.