California banning "high" rolling resistant tires

[MISWFL]

I didn't and don't want to read the article. Did they even mention air pressure and its effects. I've seen people drive around on the road on tires with about 5 psi in them, totally oblivious to fuel mileage, handling, safety and tire damage issues.

I didn't read it either. I'm tired of hearing about Cali's BS as well. I saw this on another forum.

I'm actually surprised that Cali hasn't implemented a yearly safety inspection as well as their bi annual smog checks. They could pull more BS and mandate tire pressure monitoring systems on all vehicles.

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

I didn't read it either. I'm tired of hearing about Cali's BS as well. I saw this on another forum.

I'm actually surprised that Cali hasn't implemented a yearly safety inspection as well as their bi annual smog checks. They could pull more BS and mandate tire pressure monitoring systems on all vehicles.

Don’t give them any more ideas

 

[JoshT]

I would bet a large amount of money that it's physically impossible to save $20 a month driving the same distance on tires of the same dimensions inflated to the same pressure. Maybe if you drive 10,000 miles a month.

Oh, I agree completely, hence my comment about exaggerated numbers. I was just using the numbers that they provided. Typical sham marketing.

People look at the flashy numbers and free stuff, but ignore the details. That's why Cali has gone to shit, and the rest of the country is chasing it.

You'll save $79 (over 3 months) in the first phase. You'll save $159 (over 7 months) in the second phase. All the people see is save 79 and 153. They don't do the math.

79/4=~20/mo
153/7=~22/mo

They don't pay attention to the fast that the available tire selection get smaller and more expensive each time. They actively ignore the fact that the cheapest available set of tires increases ~800-1000.

Like the average "diet" food option. "Half as much fat* (* per serving) as the leading competitor and 10 % cheaper." Read the nutrition labels and their serving size is half the size of the leading competitor with the same number of servings per package. You know people are going to eat the same serving size regardless of the label. Instead of getting a healthier option at the same price, they are getting the same product at near double the price, and they are proud of it.

These are the people that we let vote for who runs the country.

Sorry stupid stuff like this bets me riled up more than I should let it.

 

[mtnrgr]

I'm a california native, and to this uuuggghhh!!! I will keep this political free..

That idiot in Sacramento who has made world news to show the idiot he is aka king rat the greasy..

As he and his carb diet..meaning all the dough they have stole from us in taxes and this stupid crap has us who are still extremely furious and some left fast..did..those who cannot as myself are fed up with it.

These tires being banned is not for safety of anykind..its a money grab to reach further into our pockets and force us into ev's...they want older cars off the roads. Those tires they want gone is stupid, not everyone afford fancy tires. Car culture started in southern California where I'm from.

They want tires to be more carb approved..they will cost more, and they are wanting other states to follow...again its a huge grab..not for safety of anykind. They truly wanted to clean the california environment..clean up all the dump cities aka skid row in Los Angeles..do you honestly believe crap, urine, used needles are good for the environment..NO!!!

Those safety inspections have been a thing up and down here..who knows.

We shall see what happens in the future.

 

[Shran]

1984 and WALL-E foretold all of this. Sad state of affairs.

 

[pentode]

Oh, I agree completely, hence my comment about exaggerated numbers. I was just using the numbers that they provided. Typical sham marketing.

People look at the flashy numbers and free stuff, but ignore the details. That's why Cali has gone to shit, and the rest of the country is chasing it.

You'll save $79 (over 3 months) in the first phase. You'll save $159 (over 7 months) in the second phase. All the people see is save 79 and 153. They don't do the math.

79/4=~20/mo
153/7=~22/mo

They don't pay attention to the fast that the available tire selection get smaller and more expensive each time. They actively ignore the fact that the cheapest available set of tires increases ~800-1000.

Like the average "diet" food option. "Half as much fat* (* per serving) as the leading competitor and 10 % cheaper." Read the nutrition labels and their serving size is half the size of the leading competitor with the same number of servings per package. You know people are going to eat the same serving size regardless of the label. Instead of getting a healthier option at the same price, they are getting the same product at near double the price, and they are proud of it.

These are the people that we let vote for who runs the country.

Sorry stupid stuff like this bets me riled up more than I should let it.

Oh I know, that was just my way of agreeing . It irritates me like crazy too.

 

[pentode]

I didn't read it either. I'm tired of hearing about Cali's BS as well. I saw this on another forum.

I'm actually surprised that Cali hasn't implemented a yearly safety inspection as well as their bi annual smog checks. They could pull more BS and mandate tire pressure monitoring systems on all vehicles.

I was always surprised they had an emissions test but no safety.

I'd say let's all just hold everyone to a reasonable standard on both but "reasonable" and government don't seem to go together. I still don't believe a 65 Impala, starting today, can ever create as much pollution as it takes to make one Tesla, but I'm open to being proven wrong.

 

[Shran]

I still don't believe a 65 Impala, starting today, can ever create as much pollution as it takes to make one Tesla, but I'm open to being proven wrong.

It doesn't and never will. That's not the point though, the intention is to make you believe that it does to (a) drive sales, a portion of which get kicked back to politicians through stock dividends, donations, etc and (b) to make you believe that your government has your best interests at heart. It all comes back to money rolling into politician's pockets. They aren't getting paid if you don't buy new stuff.

 

[Curious Hound]

Let's not forget the very rich people not in government who benefit. Without getting political, we've got a turbocharged government-capitalism thing going on. Totally agree though.

Edit : really don't want to step on rules, this isn't about party or the political spectrum. It's equally screwed up from one end to the other as far as I can tell. The government is captured. Is that political? shoot

Let's just try to center more on the actual ban and its details and ramifications.

 

[PetroleumJunkie412]

Let's just try to center more on the actual ban and its details and ramifications.

We should be more focused on discussion about Perturabo and how HE DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG

 

[rumblecloud]

The direction it's going is to end the idea of private vehicle ownership. Eventually people won't be allowed to own vehicles. You'll pay a subscription or something to occasionally be allowed to use a vehicle, if one is available when you want to use it. Of course, once started they'll steadily reduce the number of vehicles available to use.

All things are possible and this is certainly one of them. That said, the insurance companies are going to have to be paid off somehow....I hate what this w---my world --- is heading towards. Too much government.--- oooppps.did i say that out loud?
I mean, just because we elect you does not mean you need to find a way to save the fucking world at our expense -- wait , is this topic in the Tailgate? I'll shut-up now....

 

[rumblecloud]

I'm a california native, and to this uuuggghhh!!! I will keep this political free..

That idiot in Sacramento who has made world news to show the idiot he is aka king rat the greasy..

As he and his carb diet..meaning all the dough they have stole from us in taxes and this stupid crap has us who are still extremely furious and some left fast..did..those who cannot as myself are fed up with it.

These tires being banned is not for safety of anykind..its a money grab to reach further into our pockets and force us into ev's...they want older cars off the roads. Those tires they want gone is stupid, not everyone afford fancy tires. Car culture started in southern California where I'm from.

They want tires to be more carb approved..they will cost more, and they are wanting other states to follow...again its a huge grab..not for safety of anykind. They truly wanted to clean the california environment..clean up all the dump cities aka skid row in Los Angeles..do you honestly believe crap, urine, used needles are good for the environment..NO!!!

Those safety inspections have been a thing up and down here..who knows.

We shall see what happens in the future.

YOU sir are the man. Well said from someone who lives there.

 

[superj]

I am always so glad my parents left socal when I was in 11th grade and moved us away from that stuff. And that was back in the early 90s, it was still bad then