Achieving extreme rear flex?

[t0x1k]

I have some ideas floating in my head and want to get them out in the open to be criticized or praised.

Anyone have experience with the last one in particular? The drop plate is simple and effective, but not going to gain the flex I want.
No mention of chevy leafs please. My truck isn't becoming a transvestite.

 

[crazywhiteboy]

I have some ideas floating in my head and want to get them out in the open to be criticized or praised.

Anyone have experience with the last one in particular? The drop plate is simple and effective, but not going to gain the flex I want.
No mention of chevy leafs please. My truck isn't becoming a transvestite.

stock rear shackle on top of belltech. used with early 2000s 2wd f150 leafs, and 14" foa resi's


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i dont really have any pics to show the droop, but its alot!

 

[t0x1k]

That is also an idea I had but it seems like there would be a lot of axle wrap.

 

[4.0B2]

i know a lot of 4runner guys use a dual shackle setup.. even on DD's. i've rode in one, didn't seem like an issue of wrap or anything.

 

[wahlstrom1]

No mention of chevy leafs please. My truck isn't becoming a transvestite.

Get over yourself... A leaf spring is a leaf spring, who cares what it came out of? They ride well, flex great are easily available and proven... not to mention almost bolt in.

 

[crazywhiteboy]

That is also an idea I had but it seems like there would be a lot of axle wrap.

ill admit, there is a decent amount of wrap, but its definetly managable. as a dd you wouldnt even think theres another shackle on there if you didnt know. off the pavement its great cuz you hardly ever lift a tire. i do have plans of building an anti wrap bar just to put my mind at ease when hard on the throttle in the dirt/mud/rocks/trails.

 

[Sasquatch_Ryda]

ill admit, there is a decent amount of wrap, but its definetly managable. as a dd you wouldnt even think theres another shackle on there if you didnt know. off the pavement its great cuz you hardly ever lift a tire. i do have plans of building an anti wrap bar just to put my mind at ease when hard on the throttle in the dirt/mud/rocks/trails.

Only problem with that design is that the spring is not applying any pressure on the droop side to help with traction....the axle is just hanging there. Never been a fan of any revolver/double shackle set ups.

Absolute best bang for your buck even if you don't want to hear it is the chevy leafs plain and simple.

 

[legoms013]

Whats the opposition to chevy 63's all about? lol Ranger leafs just suck in general guz they center pin is off set AKA not in the center.

 

[t0x1k]

Get over yourself... A leaf spring is a leaf spring, who cares what it came out of? They ride well, flex great are easily available and proven... not to mention almost bolt in.

Whats the opposition to chevy 63's all about? lol Ranger leafs just suck in general guz they center pin is off set AKA not in the center.

Cause, I don't feel like having cops called again when I got to cut out and punch out the rivets for the front hanger to move it forward.
My rear shackles have already been replaced and bolted up.

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

Only problem with that design is that the spring is not applying any pressure on the droop side to help with traction....the axle is just hanging there.

This is my thinking, sas just said it first and maybe better.

Richard

 

[legoms013]

Cause, I don't feel like having cops called again when I got to cut out and punch out the rivets for the front hanger to move it forward.
My rear shackles have already been replaced and bolted up.

Maybe it is different where you are at, but here in CA the cops wouldn't give a sh!t. They only care about 2 things, if you don't have your seatbelt on, or are speeding +10 over the flow of traffic.

If you want more flex, ditch the AAL and have some Deavers or Alcans custom made, and retain your beltech shackle. Thats bout the best you can do without going to Chevy 63's or some sort of drop out/revolving shackle.

 

[gwaii]

i tried the drop link at the shackle before.it was the shortest-lived suspension mod the truck ever had.while it allowed a ton of droop travel,it was virtually uncontrollable and led to some rather scary driving characteristics.

i removed it the next day.

 

[gwaii]

Only problem with that design is that the spring is not applying any pressure on the droop side to help with traction....the axle is just hanging there. Never been a fan of any revolver/double shackle set ups.

the only way a wheel will get traction is if it can reach the ground.if you have a regular leaf spring setup(or any suspension for that matter)that doesn't allow the axle to droop till the wheel contacts earth it doesn't matter how much pressure that spring could potentially apply,a wheel on the ground with ONLY IT'S OWN WEIGHT will give more traction than a wheel hanging in the air.

having said that,if an axle is able to swing so both wheels can reach the ground and to weight of the vehicle is supported by only one of the springs on that axle,that weight is still distributed across both wheels,though the ratio of that weight distribution will be detemined by the ratio of axle lengths on either side of the working spring.

if,on the other hand the axle is retained on the droop side so that it can't swing right to the ground then only the tire on the compression side is getting traction.this also means that all the drive load is being taken up by one axleshaft.

long and short of it...a wheel in the air will not drive your truck.
at all.

 

[86 slo-vo]

i am die hard ford as anybody, but shit i have never heard of anybody who wouldnt run a set of leaf springs because of it???

go 63's with a shackle flip and youll have all youll ever need.

 

[martin]

A 3/4 elliptical setup could get you some major effective droop but I don't know how you would work it on a ranger. You would also want to pin the buggy spring for road use or you end up with major nose dive under heavy braking.