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2.8L V6 wont stay running. When running it hesitates. It hesitated when I tried to drive it.


I watched your second video, that aluminum piece you have there should work fine. I would not worry about having a fan or airflow, just mount it over on the driver's side fender where it will be easy to wire up. Just drill the holes out so they line up to the module.

The EGR being gooped up is why they fail. There is a little valve in there and it gets stuck open. The EGR lets exhaust back into the intake for emissions reasons. Yes, they are putting exhaust back into the engine along with the air and fuel from the carburetor. Sounds logical doesn't it?
 
I watched your first video. 3/4 of the way through you did a quick inventory of the plugs over there on the driver's side. What happened to the round plug in the picture below?

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Nothing. That I know of. The day this photo was taken I just went and unplugged everything from the driver side so I could pull the harness to the side. The round cable might have had a clip break but that thin metal plug did break. The bare metal coming off the wire. That goes to the alternator which it broke and it tried to unplug it since the connector melted together somehow.
 
I watched your second video, that aluminum piece you have there should work fine. I would not worry about having a fan or airflow, just mount it over on the driver's side fender where it will be easy to wire up. Just drill the holes out so they line up to the module.

The EGR being gooped up is why they fail. There is a little valve in there and it gets stuck open. The EGR lets exhaust back into the intake for emissions reasons. Yes, they are putting exhaust back into the engine along with the air and fuel from the carburetor. Sounds logical doesn't it?

Sound flipping dumb haha. After I think about it. That might have been a reason my engine was running so poorly from day 1 of this thread.
Should I use some sort of gasket to just seal up any small holes that the shim misses? Just a Idea.

If you dont mind. Would you do a video and a picture and written guide on how you wired it up? Post it here so I can follow it instead of going back and forth with questions.

Monday (Going to Harbor Freight to see if they got the timing light in on truck and to get a wrench to get to the dist bolt better) Ill also mount the heatsink and wire it up. Then jack up the truck and fix the starter. Then fire her up and tune it. Thats AFTER I get the wiring all right and stuff. Should I use some sort of anti - corrosion stuff on it? As if will most likely be getting wet in its life.
 
I watched your first video. 3/4 of the way through you did a quick inventory of the plugs over there on the driver's side. What happened to the round plug in the picture below?

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Heres a photo from one of the early videos I shot of the wiring for the thread. It shows everything on this end is connected to a nasty harness. So idk if that answers your question better. Since I did unplug basicly everything from the computer harness to pul it away. I didnt break any connector besides the alternator plug which was melted/fused together. I pulled it apart and the metal prong got ripped out of the plastic. It "fixed" / "plugged" back in.

I did break a nap since it was to brittle. In a previous post. You asked if I still had the coil plug? I do. Its tied into the harness. Will I or should I cut it out?
 

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The reason I said something about the round plug, it seemed during your video you were doing a quick inventory of the necessary plugs, and you did not pickup or mention the round plug, which is one of the important ones. That is a good stock picture below. You are going to need to hook a lot of those wires on the grey square plug back up, and there is one important wire from that plug, and one important wire from the round plug that will need to be twisted together and then feed your new module.

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On the EGR, once you make your metal shim, you can smear a little red high temp rtv on it if you are afraid it will leak.
 
The reason I said something about the round plug, it seemed during your video you were doing a quick inventory of the necessary plugs, and you did not pickup or mention the round plug, which is one of the important ones. That is a good stock picture below. You are going to need to hook a lot of those wires on the grey square plug back up, and there is one important wire from that plug, and one important wire from the round plug that will need to be twisted together and then feed your new module.

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Heres a photo of the connectors that are still apart of the harness. Ive KEPT everything.
 

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The reason I said something about the round plug, it seemed during your video you were doing a quick inventory of the necessary plugs, and you did not pickup or mention the round plug, which is one of the important ones. That is a good stock picture below. You are going to need to hook a lot of those wires on the grey square plug back up, and there is one important wire from that plug, and one important wire from the round plug that will need to be twisted together and then feed your new module.

These are the connectors on the drivers side. A updated look at them.
 

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The ones below are the important ones. I can't remember what the round one with the blue inside it was for, I will have to go out and look to see if I still have it. I will look also at the grey rectangle plug, I have a lot of wires I am using on it. Where is the other half you took off? I will go out and look tomorrow. but that grey connector is called c102.

Looking at the diagrams, c102 has the orange/lightblue and the white/black that go to the alternator. It's not going to charge without those wires.

C102 has a red/yellow dot wire for the carb bowl vent solenoid. This is not important now, but you will want to have this ready for later, or you will get a very obnoxious gas smell. This may or may not be important to you depending on where you park it.

c102 also has a red/white for the coolant temp gauge or light, and a white/red for the oil pressure light or gauge.

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The ones below are the important ones. I can't remember what the round one with the blue inside it was for, I will have to go out and look to see if I still have it. I will look also at the grey rectangle plug, I have a lot of wires I am using on it. Where is the other half you took off? I will go out and look tomorrow. but that grey connector is called c102.

Looking at the diagrams, c102 has the orange/lightblue and the white/black that go to the alternator. It's not going to charge without those wires.

C102 has a red/yellow dot wire for the carb bowl vent solenoid. This is not important now, but you will want to have this ready for later, or you will get a very obnoxious gas smell. This may or may not be important to you depending on where you park it.

c102 also has a red/white for the coolant temp gauge or light, and a white/red for the oil pressure light or gauge.

I dont understand what you mean by gray triangle plug.
The gauges in the dash dont really work all too well. Im going to be putting in aftermarket gauges soon. oil temp and pressure, battery, temp, fuel level (Fuel sender doesnt work at all), volt, and vacuum gauges.
I never threw anything away. So ill look through the mess of wires and find what your describing. I do still have everything that plugged into the driver side harness.
I dont have a feedback carb. If thats what you thought. Its aftermarket. 300CFM carb. The old one was LONG gone.
 
The ones below are the important ones. I can't remember what the round one with the blue inside it was for, I will have to go out and look to see if I still have it. I will look also at the grey rectangle plug, I have a lot of wires I am using on it. Where is the other half you took off? I will go out and look tomorrow. but that grey connector is called c102.

Looking at the diagrams, c102 has the orange/lightblue and the white/black that go to the alternator. It's not going to charge without those wires.

C102 has a red/yellow dot wire for the carb bowl vent solenoid. This is not important now, but you will want to have this ready for later, or you will get a very obnoxious gas smell. This may or may not be important to you depending on where you park it.

c102 also has a red/white for the coolant temp gauge or light, and a white/red for the oil pressure light or gauge.

So tonight I went out to my truck and wrangled with the spider web of wires. I found the harness/cables you were walking about.
The whole harness is fucked (The main harness). Its all janky, nasty, just horrible.

The harness/wires you said I needed are ok. Some will need to be rewired but most of it is alright. The alternator/charging wires are good as well as the sending unit wires. Which for the hell of it. Ill reinstall. Im going to rewire what looks to be the oil sending hose (As its coated in oil and is basicly down to the bare wire. So yeah, Sorry for any confusing. When you said you didnt remember doing in cutting I figured EVERYTHING was apart of the harness. Since it was all tangled all together. My mistake! I should have tried to untangle the mess.

Now, Im getting closer to wiring it all up. Im off work monday and tuesday. I ordered a timing light off amazon when I should be getting tuesday and I ordered a box of 18 gauge wire multi color box which I should be getting wednesday. I just didnt wanna play the guessing game wether or not harbor fart would have one in their truck on monday. I will still need to get something to help me loosen or tighten the dist bolt. Which I might get a crows foot kit.
 

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I am glad you got the grey plug and it's wires pluggled back in. For right now there is no use causing anymore work. And you need those couple of wires for the alternator to work. Don't worry what the wires look like. As long a they are not bare. If they are just wrap some electrical tape around the bare spots, and then gather them all together in a neat bundle and put them in some of that split loom like I used going to my distributor in one of the pictures above.
 
I am glad you got the grey plug and it's wires pluggled back in. For right now there is no use causing anymore work. And you need those couple of wires for the alternator to work. Don't worry what the wires look like. As long a they are not bare. If they are just wrap some electrical tape around the bare spots, and then gather them all together in a neat bundle and put them in some of that split loom like I used going to my distributor in one of the pictures above.
I haven't plugged them back in yet. I'm gonna cut some looms for them first. Plus, I'm sure you know which is which. The wire with the black sleeve is 100% bare under the sleep. Is that oil one for the oil pressure sending unit? If so, should I rewire it and wrap it?

Also, there were 2 wires that went to nothing. What should I do with them?

I plug everything back in once I get from work. I get off at 5.
 
I went out and found that plug with the blue in it is for the knock sensor. You won't need that, just push it to the side.

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I went out and found that plug with the blue in it is for the knock sensor. You won't need that, just push it to the side.

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Cool!
 

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