The autumn years of the ICE should be the golden years for the ICE.

[RonD]

To be fair....the old square bodies were hellacious trucks. I had a 78 K20 with a 454/4sp and there was nothing that would stop that truck. literally.

Chevy can make good engines and most transmissions are OK, which is why the cars are OK
Trucks on the other hand rattle after a few years, knobs and handles break off, just seem to nickle and dime you to death
Always needed a spare starter

 

[Blmpkn]

Chevy can make good engines and most transmissions are OK, which is why the cars are OK
Trucks on the other hand rattle after a few years, knobs and handles break off, just seem to nickle and dime you to death
Always needed a spare starter

Your experience with GMs must be with all the lemons they've made lol. All we have at work for box trucks & pickups are GM and we must have a couple million trouble free miles sitting in the parking lot. My family was always GM too and nobody had any issues for the most part.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Chevy can make good engines and most transmissions are OK, which is why the cars are OK
Trucks on the other hand rattle after a few years, knobs and handles break off, just seem to nickle and dime you to death
Always needed a spare starter

I can attest to that. Thats why i wont buy a newer chevy truck. I bought a colorado brand new in 08 and by 2011 the parking brake release handle came off, the door panel inside was loose, the buttons and stuff shown wear, seat was worn,...truthfully it was in much worse shape judgeing by that stuff then either of my 87 rangers.

My buddy has a 02 2500 HD and compared to my 97 F250 HD the quality of interior componets is really, really lacking.

 

[19Walt93]

I can attest to that. Thats why i wont buy a newer chevy truck. I bought a colorado brand new in 08 and by 2011 the parking brake release handle came off, the door panel inside was loose, the buttons and stuff shown wear, seat was worn,...truthfully it was in much worse shape judgeing by that stuff then either of my 87 rangers.

My buddy has a 02 2500 HD and compared to my 97 F250 HD the quality of interior componets is really, really lacking.

Not to defend Chevy, but wasn't a Colorado an Isuzu with bowties on it?

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Not to defend Chevy, but wasn't a Colorado an Isuzu with bowties on it?

It was a joint venture deal like the S-10 and whatever Izuzu called their variant.

Almost seems like by "joint venture" it means Izusu gets to put some money in the pot and is allowed to put their stickers on a couple.

 

[bobbywalter]

Just like the Duramax ....


Those things are awesome.

Thank you isuzu....sometimes

 

[sgtsandman]

Not to defend Chevy, but wasn't a Colorado an Isuzu with bowties on it?

Yep. Don’t know about the current one but the previous generation of Colorados were made by Isuzu. Our shop truck is a Colorado. Everything about seems cheap.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Not to defend Chevy, but wasn't a Colorado an Isuzu with bowties on it?

I believe the isuzu was a chevy with isuzu badges.

 

[Blmpkn]

The chevy luv was an actual Isuzu, marketed as a chevy. The s10/coloranyons badged as isuzus are chevys.

I think there was at least one more chevy marketed as an isuzu.. a car mabey? Idk.

 

[fastpakr]

I believe the isuzu was a chevy with isuzu badges.

That was my understanding as well - by the time the Isuzu Hombre came out, things had reversed so it was a Chevy product that was available in Isuzu badging. That was repeated a few years later with a knockoff of the Colorado.

 

[sgtsandman]

The Geo brands were Suzukis and Toyotas. Before they came out with the Geo brand, The Chevy Sprint was a Suzuki and the Chevy Nova was a Toyota. I don’t know of any Chevy cars being Isuzus but can’t say any weren’t. The Geo Tracker was a Susuki.

 

[fastpakr]

That sounds right - my recollection is that Geo never actually produced anything. Just badge engineering with various other brands. So much weird cross breeding between companies. At one point Acura needed an SUV so they were rebadging the Isuzu Trooper. But they didn't do much of anything to make it match the rest of the Acura lineup's luxury feel, so it was an oddly spartan vehicle in the mix.

 

[sgtsandman]

That sounds right - my recollection is that Geo never actually produced anything. Just badge engineering with various other brands. So much weird cross breeding between companies. At one point Acura needed an SUV so they were rebadging the Isuzu Trooper. But they didn't do much of anything to make it match the rest of the Acura lineup's luxury feel, so it was an oddly spartan vehicle in the mix.

Honda did the same thing with their mid size SUV. I think it as called the Passport. It only lasted a year or two before they came out with the Pilot. Or maybe it was vise versa? I always got those two models confused.

 

[fastpakr]

That's correct - the Passport was a badged Isuzu Rodeo.

 

[Chapap]

What’s the benefit to a manufacturer to allow another brand to rebadge a car? ie: what did Ford gain from the Mazda B series?