Glittery oil

[rumblecloud]

wow. This is a biatch. One of those things where you are damned of you do and damned if you don't if you don't. I think I would opt for the damned of you do course.
Start simple and follow the trail.
Good luck.

 

[19Walt93]

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likely culprit. These springs are filthy

I'd contact the rebuilder and ask about the crud on the valve springs, thoroughly cleaning the parts is the first step in a rebuild, what else did they fail to do? If you decide to continue with it, at least pull the oil pump apart and look at the gears- just pay attention to how they were installed and put them back in the same way, assuming they aren't torn up.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I would try to get ahold of them and say "I just primed the oil pump, I haven't even ran it yet and I have visible metal flakes in the oil what should I do?" and see what they say.

If you tear it down and discover something stupid bad and want a warranty they may not approve you messing with it.

 

[1984RESTOMOD]

I'd leave it in for now and flush using the drill on the oil pump. Also cut open the oil filter and inspect that to see how much metal it has collected during the flushing. This will help give an idea of how much you may find once you start to open the low end.

Also inspect the oil pump to see if any shavings have run through it damaging it.

What about all the now oil soaked metal dust on the valve springs? Will that not introduce even more into the passageways?

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

What about all the now oil soaked metal dust on the valve springs? Will that not introduce even more into the passageways?

That wont help anything...

 

[1984RESTOMOD]

That wont help anything...

Motor is past warranty so it's up to me now. Where to start I am not opposed to doing this myself but with basic understanding of motor function and lack of in person teacher I don't want to make my situation worse by looking over something detrimental.

 

[Uncle Gump]

You're in a tough spot...

All the loose stuff you see will be washed down to the oil pan and then will be filtered out by the filter. The real problem is where did it come from? Also any of the "glitter" you see has or could have made its way through all the oil gallies. That stuff has most likely already impregnated itself into the soft babbit on the bearings. Once there the only remedy is to replace the bearings. It also causes imperfections to the journal surfaces.

Honestly... the only real cure is to pull it out and go through the engine.

That said... it really looks like they did a poor job of things... the warranty is past and it's gonna be on you to fix it. I would call them and express your disappointment and ask them if they're willing to do anything for you. If they won't... ensure you leave a poor review... and get the word out about the place and just cut your loses with them.

At that point... I would probably continue on and button up the rest of the work needed done. Prime the system... fire it up... run it to operating temp. Shut it down and drain the oil. Cut the filter open and see what's in there. If it's not horrible... fill it full of oil. Repeat... but put a bit more time on it... dial it in... and see what you got.

Then if things are ok... run it awhile and enjoy the truck. But formulate a plan to repair/replace it with a properly built engine.

I say this only because my expectations from that engine would be low. But running it while and working the bugs out of the truck with it will advance the truck overall and get you closer to completed. Opposed to starting from the beginning... and buying a new engine.

 

[1984RESTOMOD]

You're in a tough spot... the only real cure is to pull it out and go through the engine.

I’m going to sub this out to a professional with more time on their hands for a task like this. What should I expect to spend for a rebuild ballpark?

 

[Uncle Gump]

I really have no clue in today's world.

I can assure you it's not gonna be cheap.

 

[19Walt93]

I’m going to sub this out to a professional with more time on their hands for a task like this. What should I expect to spend for a rebuild ballpark?

It depends on how much needs to be done, machining is expensive. $3000-$4000 goes by fast.
If it's all on you, pull the oil pump and verify that it's good or replace it, packing the pump loosely with Lubriplate. Pour some oil on the rocker arms to flush the corruption into the pan. Then assemble it with fresh oil and filter and spin the pump for a while and change the oil again. If the oil still looks "glittery" do it again. Once the oil is reasonably clean, run it for a while and change it again. You may get away with it.

 

[1984RESTOMOD]

Safe to say i’m not going to make it to the TRS event this year

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I’m going to sub this out to a professional with more time on their hands for a task like this. What should I expect to spend for a rebuild ballpark?

@fastpakr went thru a kind of similar situation a few years ago

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Safe to say i’m not going to make it to the TRS event this year

You don't have to drive a Ranger to hang out...

 

[fastpakr]

@fastpakr went thru a kind of similar situation a few years ago

Are we including therapy sessions in the estimate?

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Are we including therapy sessions in the estimate?

In theory there at least wouldn't be any machine work involved since it hasn't ran... as long as this isn't one of the clown outfits that only bores the cylinders that need cleaned up and other stupid crap like that.