Baddad just curios... will that block you are talking about take 289 internals?
Jay.... are you going to be using injectors or carb? and how deep are your pockets for this build? I am getting the feeling that you are wanting major power on the cheap. here is another intersting read about HIPO 302.
Remember that the older blocks used to be hiped up with 289 internals and that made a shade tree stroker. the mexican blocks will take an over bore easier than regular 302 blocks due to the fact that the walls are thincker and give the block that much more leeway.
"The two most popular methods for increasing the displacement of the late model Mustang is a stroked 302, usually displacing somewhere between 321 and 347 cubes or a 351W conversion. The purpose of this installment of the Water Box is to examine both options and offer some insight into which is the better choice for the average enthusiast.
Increasing the stroke of the stock 302 can yield substantial performance increases without affecting overall driveability or the car's current manners. Since it's visually impossible to tell that your 302 may actually be a 347, the extra stroke offers an element of surprise to unsuspecting competitors.
While stroking a 302 has many benefits, it also has some shortcomings. Perhaps the most important point to consider is that the late model 302 block is structurally weak and prone to substantial flexing. In mild applications, block strength is not as important a concern as it is with higher horsepower levels (425 or more). To build a high horsepower stroked 302 that will not suffer constant head gasket failure and the threat of coming apart, a Motorsport A4 block is a must. The A4 block is the end all for head gasket problems and can safely channel 1000+ horsepower, it's the kind of block that engine builders dream about. The problem is cost. Add $500 - $750 in machining to the $1600 price tag of the bare block and it quickly becomes cost prohibitive for the average enthusiast. A stroked 302 can be reliable using a Mexican 302 block (which is much stronger than late model 302 blocks) but they're becoming more and more difficult find."
hope this helps
my whole goal is to build a well mannered mild 302 that isn't going to break every time i spin it to 6 grand. am i going to be taking it to the track once a week? no. am i going to be baggin the crap outta it? no. do i like being able to take fast cars on main street? yes. point is i've always wanted to do a 302 swap and my rangers engine is lacking.
if i spend 5 grand or more making this truck into my dream truck i dont see any waste whatsoever.
the reason im not building a 347 is i've heard the stroke is too long and the pistons travel too far down, eventually resulting in chatter in the cylinder. i've read that the 331 stroker kit solved these problems. i dont think i will be going that far as i dont need 500 horsepower. 350 or 375 is plenty, and 300 at the wheels is more than enough to give me great passing power.
i wont be starting to build an engine until i've bought a new truck to dd (most likely going to buy an 06+ranger 4x4 4 liter)
i've been saving for a downpayment for about 2 months and i have just over 2000
next month my pay will be small as im going to hawaii so after that its all workin and buying ranger parts.
thanks for all your help dude its awesome.
nothing wrong with a good 302...
My girlfriend & I know of a drag car that runs a 289 and blows away all BB cheBBies in the class... these chev guys are like WTF.... LOL
my saying is anyone can build a 350... but it takes a man to build a ford...
your awesome. takes a man to build a ford hahahaha. now every time i hear that song im gonna think they should change the words hahaha
do research on the heads you have, cause there are the gt or gt-40. and the cams are relatively easy then porting and such. if you do research on it you can find massive articles. you will be amazed
i dont have en engine, hence the reason im lookin for a starting point. its just theres so much confusion.
The Mex blocks are over rated. The reason they're thicker was because of the inferior casting techniques used in Ford's Mexican casting foundry. The D8VE blocks are just as heavy, but the casting quality is better. Only difference is they had the std main cap. But those aren't known for failures anyway. A main girdle will help there, and should be used anyway for a stroker.
plus if i went to a mexican block i would sacrifice a roller cam and rockers. im confident roller cam will give me better driving manners and a smoother idle, both important in maintaining a good sleeper.
thank you for your answers, and one more question. or two. hehe
how do i identify the correct dizzy?
just pull em out til i find one with steel gears?
what other types of gears might there be, aluminum? or like cast or something?
hope im not sounding stupid here.
one more thing, is building a AOD a good direction to go?
or should i look more into tremec or t5's?
what good autos are there with a good overdrive?
i'd like
some highway milage...