More Bronco hear say.

[rusty ol ranger]

Does the old Bronco have a warranty? I must have misssd that.

Good luck getting them to warrenty it after its been off road a time or two

 

[sgtsandman]

It costs a lot of money to print paper owners manuals. Then if you find a mistake... you reprint... gets very expensive. Electronic versions are far cheaper and can be updated with a few clicks of a mouse.

Great idea in theory unless the infotainment center is shot or the battery is dead. Electronic manuals save the manufacturer money for sure but aren’t very helpful if you can’t access them. Paper doesn’t need power or a display to work.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Great idea in theory unless the infotainment center is shot or the battery is dead. Electronic manuals save the manufacturer money for sure but aren’t very helpful if you can’t access them. Paper doesn’t need power or a display to work.

If the battery is dead you might as well sort that out before you worry about how to sync your phone or change the tire anyway.

 

[snoranger]

If the battery is dead you might as well sort that out before you worry about how to sync your phone or change the tire anyway.

But how do I read the instructions on how to jump start my vehicle... or the warning not to drink the battery acid!!!!!

 

[1990RangerinSK]

It costs a lot of money to print paper owners manuals. Then if you find a mistake... you reprint... gets very expensive. Electronic versions are far cheaper and can be updated with a few clicks of a mouse.

That's all fine and good. But, the manual should be made available on multiple digital formats. DVD, Flashdrive/USB stick, PDF available for download. And paper, for old geezers like @rusty ol ranger.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

That's all fine and good. But, the manual should be made available on multiple digital formats. DVD, Flashdrive/USB stick, PDF available for download. And paper, for old geezers like @rusty ol ranger.

It's online if you want to print it.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

That's all fine and good. But, the manual should be made available on multiple digital formats. DVD, Flashdrive/USB stick, PDF available for download. And paper, for old geezers like @rusty ol ranger.

I dont even read the manuals.

Take that back...i do if wifes in grocery shopping and im bored.

 

[Ranger850]

The cost of printing manuals was just replaced with the cost of the tech group that formats the manual to digital form. It's not actually cheaper, it's just re-allocation of funds.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

The cost of printing manuals was just replaced with the cost of the tech group that formats the manual to digital form. It's not actually cheaper, it's just re-allocation of funds.

Not really.

Ford has had manuals available digitally online for decades.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

It's online if you want to print it.

Im sorry but if im spending 50k+ for a vehicle the least they can do is print a proper manual

 

[Uncle Gump]

The cost of printing manuals was just replaced with the cost of the tech group that formats the manual to digital form. It's not actually cheaper, it's just re-allocation of funds.

Having been there... done that at GM for 16 years... the amount of overall waste in hard copy manuals is atrocious. Not so much when printed... or the paper involved but getting that information to print "ready" required way more people. Sure... there is a small team that manages the data base but there were entire departments eliminated by going electronic. I would guess probably 60% headcount reduction overall. That's where they save. Savings on truckloads of print paper to create working hard copies was just icing on the cake.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Having been there... done that at GM for 16 years... the amount of overall waste in hard copy manuals is atrocious. Not so much when printed... or the paper involved but getting that information to print "ready" required way more people. Sure... there is a small team that manages the data base but there were entire departments eliminated by going electronic. I would guess probably 60% headcount reduction overall. That's where they save. Savings on truckloads of print paper to create working hard copies was just icing on the cake.

And then few few people ever look at them anyway.

 

[Ranger850]

Those digital copies don't upload themselves, nor do they self correct. That small group or team to do digital stuff, costs money too, and those techy IT guys ain't cheap.

My point is they will lose one "budget" and replace it with another. So the old paper budget is now the IT budget and so on. I work in Revenue, so I know a little bit of how to reallocate and not intermingle

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Those digital copies don't upload themselves, nor do they self correct. That small group or team to do digital stuff, costs money too, and those techy IT guys ain't cheap.

My point is they will lose one "budget" and replace it with another. So the old paper budget is now the IT budget and so on. I work in Revenue, so I know a little bit of how to reallocate and not intermingle

But they have been doing digital for years anyway.

 

[Ranger850]

But they have been doing digital for years anyway.

Ok. So what are they gonna do with all the money they save from digital manuals? R&D? No they have to reallocate those dollars to a different division in the same department. Probably the digital and or social media division.