Why is nobody open to new things.

[06RangerXLT]

The only laptops I see failing after only two years were factory shipped
with harddrives that I would only use to keep a table from wobbling

And OS crash or outright HDD failure is not cause to replace the notebook.

MAC people simply don't acknowledge that they represent 15% of the
market in the US, far less worldwide. and there are reasons for that....

I maintain two harddrives for my notebook, a clone I update monthly.
My desktop that sees far more use I update the clone weekly.

AD

too much time wasted doing that. i plug in an external, click backup and it does auto backups by date. so i can look up info when i had it. i can go back over 6 months.

im sorry, but windows is slowly being pushed out. your right, were only 15%, but three years ago we were 4%. humans like new, not updated old.

 

[Psychopete]

no pc Vs Mac battles.

Windows is not slowly being pushed out.

I don't like new, new shit that hasn't been in the market is usually junk. Would you buy the first year of a brand new car model? And Mac isn't anything new...

 

[06RangerXLT]

i own the first model cts to come out. it now has 290,000 kms on it and runs like its got 50,000. so to answer your question, yes i would. buying the first of a product was when there was no quality control. so that tells me that by saying that, your stuck in your comfortable ways, and dont like change very much. you must be a windows user! haha

like they say with anything new, dont bash it till you try it. (using it for an hour doesnt even come close to counting) buy one, i guarentee you'll never touch another pc.

 

[Psychopete]

Nothing wrong with being comfortable. I use Windows, Linux and Mac frequently. I've been using computers before Windows wasn't you would think of Windows being today, and probably before that. I use a Mac at work for testing, and I have had to use them off and on throughout the years. All the way back to the old monochrome Apple 2e, even owned one of those turd black and white integrated units. I wouldn't pay for one.

 

[JoshT]

the ideas windows uses are just out dated. unfortunatly the world is progressing, and these windows based computers are the same they were 10 years ago, with some added speed and memory.

windows is worse then ford when it come to updating the look of their products. (same ranger since 97)

for instance. use a metal case as a heat sink. use a magnetic power cord cus lord knows its gonna get pulled out by accident. put in an anitglare screen with true 1080P. have drop protection so when the macbook feels its falling, it turns off the harddrive to protect from damage. make the touch pad the clicker, instead of adding unnesisary buttons.

i could go on for a week.

You are right the world is progressing, technology is progressing. What makes it so funny is that what you are blaming on windows is actually the hardware. You know what MAC is so far ahead that it progressed as well, to the very same hardware. care to explain that one to me?

If windows is worse than Ford when it comes to the look then you haven't really used Windows in quite a while. Making a decision without knowing the product. Funny I you seem to accuse people of doing the same thing to Mac a few posts later. And then you go on to cite things that are hardware manufacturer based and have nothing to do with windows other than it's running the OS.

I'd prefer to not have a metal case as a heat sink plastic gets hot enough when it's sitting on my lap. Don't know what you are doing but never managed to accidentally pull the power cord out of mine. Antiglare 1080p screen, they are available, just have to pay a little more for them (still cheaper than a mac). Drop Protection, don't drop it DUH! If you need that get a tough book. If you pay attention to what you are doing you won't drop it, especially not of you have it sitting on a table as it seems most people do. Let's see 1 Dell Laptop, 1 ASUS Laptop, 1 Acer Netbook, and 1 HP Laptop and all on all of them the Touch Pad can act as the clicker. The button is just there for if you prefer it.

too much time wasted doing that. i plug in an external, click backup and it does auto backups by date. so i can look up info when i had it. i can go back over 6 months.

Too much time wasted, have you ever tried it on a PC? It doesn't take long at all. Depending on the software you use and type of back-ups you do it can be used exactly the same way. AD just chooses to do complete back-ups instead of incremental. Hell I don't back-up at all, don't need to. In the 11+ years I have been using and building computers I haven't had a single hard drive failure. Yes I know the advantages and drawbacks of backing up but it's my choice. Don't keep anything important enough on my computers that I'd be worried if I did loose it. In the event that the drive did fail it doesn't take that long to replace and be back up and running.

so that tells me that by saying that, your stuck in your comfortable ways, and dont like change very much. you must be a windows user! haha

Honestly every time I see you reply I see you doing the same thing.

This thread is a perfect example of why I hate PC/MAC comparison threads. The problems go both ways but in this thread it seems to be mostly the MAC users. You keep comparing your MACs to Windows based laptops. If you are going to compare similar systems. I see comparisons of Macbooks to much older (that means 6 months + technology just changes that fast) systems. Even when the system you are comparing to is newer that says nothing about the system specs. Someone compared a Macbook to a newer dell (IIRC) and was talking about how much faster the macbook is. The in the same post talked about how the hard drive and memory was upgraded in the macbook. Well that simple memory and hard drive upgrade can make a drastic difference in performance on a laptop (or macbook), that's not to mention that Dells come with a metric ton of bloatware installed slowing it down. If you are going to compare either compare on a price basis (IE: $1200 dollar Macbook to same price Laptop) or on a hardware basis (IE: Both having same ammount of ram, very similar speed processor, and same specs on hard drive). I'm pretty sure you would find that on a prices basis the $1200 Laptop would beat out the Macbook on performance and reliability, on a hardware basis the Laptop would probably win again in most people's eyes because the cost it so much lower.

 

[06RangerXLT]

same hardware, yet it works so much better.

explain that one.

i run dual boot on my mac, it runs slower then mac osx on the same computer. and no, not paralell, actual boot in only windows. on a mac, its still slow and lost in itself. i know computer's so i can navigate very easily, but someone not so familiar has to find short cuts, link's and applications. its just poorly made. the original is being replaced by the superior.

my father writes software for petro canada. (google it if you dont know) working on a 4 million dollar project, he still thinks osx is far superior to anything windows can do. its the ability to plug in any printer and it loads the drive by itself. its the simple tasks of automatic updates, not "security service update" it automaticly downloads and loads them. most updates you dont have to restart the computer. windows needs every update given a restart to take affect. its old, its out dated, and its only gotten a face lift in the past 10 years. i can run windows on a mac with ease, yet if i want to run osx on my pc, it wouldnt work. why? windows is so "only buy windows" that it wont let it cbe compatible. and the best part is windows 7 pro is 20 gigs.

20


gigs


junk 90% or people wont touch. think about it. you see maybe 1% or all pc's. of that 1%, maybe 1/8th of those are customized. so in a market of store bought built pc's those who say they use theirs for gaming are the smallest portion of a massive network. slowly the world is headed towards mac. they began the touch screen phase. the slid to unlock, facetime. they create the ideas, everyone imitates.

say all you want towards pro windows based pc's, but the fact is they are losing an unbeatable battle, and im on the side with the best stuff.

If you didnt need to spend extra on a mac when you can get a cheap pc, you wouldnt buy an fx4 level 2, when you can get a sport 4x4 that "will do everything the expensive one can"

 

[Psychopete]

Your argument is a very lame duck one. You might perceive it to function better, but to be honest they both work. My work PC (XP) runs for months at a time, 24/7, has since 2008. There's nothing a Mac can do that you can't do under Windows and mostly Linux; and vise versa. But there are certain aspects of operating systems that I like - I absolutely love the versatility of shell scripting in Linux, but I hate all of the package dependencies - especially when PPM or apt-get is not an option to do it for you and you have to download everything in tarballs from cpan.

I am not siding for either one, I haven't said one bad thing about a Mac. Just because you use and like it, doesn't mean the rest of the world has to agree with you.

 

[Psychopete]

i can run windows on a mac with ease, yet if i want to run osx on my pc, it wouldnt work. why? windows is so "only buy windows" that it wont let it cbe compatible. and the best part is windows 7 pro is 20 gigs.

It didn't work because OSX will only allow to run on the hardware they allow you to, they've got your thinking all mixed up. Apple is like that.

"Windows is so 'only buy Windows'", I don't even know how to reply to this. WOW

 

[kcm1582]

same hardware, yet it works so much better.

explain that one.

i run dual boot on my mac, it runs slower then mac osx on the same computer. and no, not paralell, actual boot in only windows. on a mac, its still slow and lost in itself. i know computer's so i can navigate very easily, but someone not so familiar has to find short cuts, link's and applications. its just poorly made. the original is being replaced by the superior.

my father writes software for petro canada. (google it if you dont know) working on a 4 million dollar project, he still thinks osx is far superior to anything windows can do. its the ability to plug in any printer and it loads the drive by itself. its the simple tasks of automatic updates, not "security service update" it automaticly downloads and loads them. most updates you dont have to restart the computer. windows needs every update given a restart to take affect. its old, its out dated, and its only gotten a face lift in the past 10 years. i can run windows on a mac with ease, yet if i want to run osx on my pc, it wouldnt work. why? windows is so "only buy windows" that it wont let it cbe compatible. and the best part is windows 7 pro is 20 gigs.

20


gigs


junk 90% or people wont touch. think about it. you see maybe 1% or all pc's. of that 1%, maybe 1/8th of those are customized. so in a market of store bought built pc's those who say they use theirs for gaming are the smallest portion of a massive network. slowly the world is headed towards mac. they began the touch screen phase. the slid to unlock, facetime. they create the ideas, everyone imitates.

say all you want towards pro windows based pc's, but the fact is they are losing an unbeatable battle, and im on the side with the best stuff.

If you didnt need to spend extra on a mac when you can get a cheap pc, you wouldnt buy an fx4 level 2, when you can get a sport 4x4 that "will do everything the expensive one can"

 

[06RangerXLT]

It's ok. I'd expect someone using windows to not want to switch. I was the same way when I was a kid. And if you think Mac is controlling what you can run, Your on crack.

I can run ANYTHING I want to. You name it. Games, programs, movies, music. I can overclock, I can upgrade the hardware. You have to know what your doing. If you've never tried, it makes sense you Don't know.

By the way, it's hilarious watching you boys squirm when I call your windows computers piles of my dogs breakfast from yesterday.

Please leave your most creative posts below. I like the head up the ass. Reminds me of all those windows users who are clueless that the grass is greener on the other side.


Happy trolling!

 

[kcm1582]

Clueless? HA that's a good one. I have spent plenty of time using Windows, Mac and linux, and I'm sorry but I don't share your love for Apple products.

But I will tell ya, it sure is fun watching you getting all wound up and make sweeping remarks about your opposition. Kinda reminds my of them Chevy boys.

 

[Psychopete]

It's ok. I'd expect someone using windows to not want to switch.

Why switch when what you have works fine for what you need to do? You are saying everyone should use Mac because you think it's great, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. Well my opinion is that you should just use what works for you and quit being a **** nut about it.

And if you think Mac is controlling what you can run, Your on crack.

I mentioned that OSX was designed not to work on your PC hardware, no one said what you stated. Not going to dig yourself out of that hole. You said yourself that OSX wouldn't work on your PC, but Windows would work on your Mac hardware, so what does that tell you?

I like the head up the ass.

uuuuhhhh what ever floats your boat I guess...

 

[shane96ranger]

Please leave your most creative posts below. I like the head up the ass. Reminds me of all those windows users who are clueless that the grass is greener on the other side.

Why are you so concerned about converting everyone? There are good products on both sides. I've messed with Mac's plenty enough to know I don't care for them. Will a Mac do what I want and need? Sure it will. But I have my reasons as to why I don't want a Mac, and it doesn't make me any dumber than you for not wanting one. To call us all clueless just shows complete arrogance on your part, like you've got one up on us.

when I call your windows computers piles of my dogs breakfast from yesterday.

You might want to get your dog to a vet.

 

[06RangerXLT]

Oh I'm not converting, I'm letting everyone know there's a better way. If they aren't interested after the facts, that's fine.

You boys are the ones posting a head up ass picture. Real mature! I'd say your the only ones getting bent.

 

[TheTopher]

OK, im sure we have all heard the Mac vs PC things.

Ill shoot out a little info i have found, and share what i think.

When i grew up, all we used was a dell pc. that thing was SLOW. but they were like that. I used to HATE mac. couldnt stand how the system worked.

What really turned me onto the computer system was a few things like, everything is made in house, their customer service is the best ive ever seen(i work in sales, cutomers service is my middle name) i love the fact they arent all made with plastic and the fact that they dont slow down with age.

the best way i can describe it, is wondows os opens up programs and runs them great. the trouble is it doesnt shut down everything the program opened, when you hit close.

thats what i couldnt stand.

now my question isnt whos better, or which one do you prefer.

my question is, Why arent people open to see new things? I can tell mac is dominating the market by the fact that PC has come down in price to try and compete. plus if you see a comercial today, its probable going to have a mac in it.

Whats your guys thought on the subject?

and no pc Vs Mac battles. youtube is the home of those arguments!

also, why hasnt windows fixed the problem of slowing down over time? im right now on a pc thats from 2007, and its dying very badly. yet my macbook from the same year is as fast as a new one.

and dont tell me im not computer savy, i used to write software, and my father is a head IT for a mojor oil company here in canada.

Mac is not dominating the market. If I remember right they still have less than 20% market share. PC has always had lower prices, mac has brought theirs down to try and compete, as far as the commercials, Apples only real strength has ever been marketing. Every product they've ever made has been inferior to the competition, from computers to mp3 players to tablets. Apple products have never been better, they just tell people they are, and that strategy has worked for them. I wouldn't exactly call it "Open to new things" I just call them suckers.

I've been a system builder for 10 years, by the way. I owned several macs when I was a kid and my boss' son at my last job was a hardcore apple freak, I've had ample exposure to all their products hanging out at his place.