Like 85 said, the towes wont swap. Im not sure if a 97 bw4406 still uses a gear driven apeedo, the 4406 i used was from a 02. I finally ended upbusing an np205, ot ia quite heavy but it fit like it was meant to be there, the only downside is its lowrange is kind of crap and you need to make a cross member for it becuase they never cme behind an aluminum cased transmission.
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dude.
i spent hours going over your build thread. and i can believe you believe that. while it sure as fawk is not even close to being true, i can see where thoughts could go that way. the 205 was put behind more aluminum transmissions then anything else by a long shot..dodge-ford-jeep-gm and a few others... i seen that and it made me lol... i dont know why you did not use the 4406...i know i would have if it had taken 3 hrs to put the 205 in with another guy on the initial fit up..after all that work and dropping it....i would have been like....hmmmm...what if i have to deal with this thing on the trail????.... then that 4406 would have been put right where it belonged..
these days i usually can not handle 205 by myself anymore, and it is humbling....cause for 30 years it was never an issue and i wondered why people were always worried about dealing with them in the wild...now i know
so if it is not needed for doubler applications and front burn i strongly suggest against using these beasts.
i for one think you deserve an award for perseverance.. you have the same luck as i do, can jump in a barrel full of titties and come up choking on a dick every time kind of luck. and you patiently kept plugging along...life beating on ya with some serious losses....and then the truck always kicking ya in the berries, yet you still have er....i wish you lived closer as i would love to help ya out when i could.
howlinghuskie.....
most the 97,s have the speedo drive.
you will likely want a 3 in body lift to fit most full size transfer cases. or tilt the powertrain down at a hard angle...or tilt and cut and patch up the floor....
get the 150 4406 if possible, as they tend to be the regular style...not the tod style..theres a few different versions of this case so its easy to mess up. make sure it is a reg 4wd case...and not tod.
i would
strongly suggest at least a 2 in body lift. i would also suggest to consider making the core and front part of the inner fenders removable to the cab horns.
if you do these things i would suggest to make some custom engine mounts as well so you can easily put the engine
exactly where
you want it.
and unless you have already replaced the factory body mounts...
with a truck as old as yours, the body lift will probably be harder to do then the engine swap
.... and i am not kidding
there are compromises to using the f208 or any of the wider cases depending on how you choose to install this powertrain... the frame mods and/or longitudal offset leads to less then perfect driveline angles and premature joint wear with single/single driveline setups along with potential harmonic issues at certain speeds.
if you stay two piece for the rear shaft you can split that up and pretty much eliminate any drive line issues. most just use a cv at the case side, but it can get pricey doing that.
cutting the frame for clearance at right angles will greatly weaken it, avoid those types of cuts if possible....roll the rail edge with big crescent wrenches, or drill holes and cut to the holes for material removal if that is necessary for clearances..
the 4406 is usually available and cost effective. like the f208 they are big, but the ones i have used fit a little better longitudinally. yokes were a little harder to deal with though.
if the 4406 is just not for you, there is another 208 to consider...
the amc version. they work real good.
you will want to rob the parts off of a ford 208...(fixed yoke of course). you need the input shaft(31 spline) and tail housing/speedo drive. it allows you to keep the ford speedo setup so you have vss. or just adapt the jeep style speedo drive to your needs.
they also require you to cut an inch off of the output shaft of the trans or get a 1 to 1 1/4 inch spacer to go behind most of the ford transmissions.. they fit awesome though.
i have some spare 31 spline inputs and tail housings you can have if you locate a 208 jeep version so you dont have to buy two cases. i run the 32 spline gm in my ford cases so i have those 31 splines laying around...
and i have pilles of parts because i fawk these 208 cases up....allot!!
they are not as stout as the 4406, no version of the 208 is. the biggest problem with the amc is they are rare compared to the fords... you may go out and find the amc case right off the bat....you may never even see or find anyone that even knows what they are. so if ya find one...try to get two so you have a spare.
on the air conditioning, you will need some new lines. depending on where you live, usually easily made. i have seen people modify the firewall and install the explorer hvac in total, with the dashboard in the gen 1-2-3 trucks...its a win win because no heater box mods and the wall is made for a 302...and you can bump it back a bit more if you wanted to.
i have to imagine that is a ton of work, but i have seen several vehicles done like that. it lets you keep all your explorer stuff. and the real bonus is parts replacements. well for a couple more years anyway will be readily available if ac is a priority. i have never had ac in my main ranger, but as the grey hairs fill in... it seems to be...becoming....a priority
you have it all with the donor vehicle....up to you how it gets done.
thats my worthless two cents anyway.
these are all the same and all unique at the same time...if that makes sense.
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