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Man If you havn't done it yourself, then don't knock it. I have done it on 2 different cars now, and it DOES work.The whole HHO gas thing is a scam. It takes more power to create the hydrogen and oxygen than you get by burning it in an ICE. As for the claim that it "improves combustion", that would be easily identifiable in the lab. The fact that nobody has made a major announcement that would reinforce this "theory" means that it's a load of BS.
Try basic physics for a change. Do you really think that using an inefficient internal combustion engine to turn an inefficient alternator to produce the power required to split the water into hydrogen and oxygen will somehow produce more energy than you put in?
I can see the arguments now. It's improving combustion efficiency, the government doesn't want you to know this secret to better fuel economy, my foil hat is too tight becasue the "man" is restricting the supply of aluminum, etc, etc. Failure to properly research and educate yourself about the inner workings is not an excuse to proclaim success on the grounds of "it just works". If you were to actually learn the physics and chemistry behind what this whole scam is proposing, you'd realize how flawed this whole setup is.
You seem to be incapable of wrapping your head around this concept. You are only separating the hydrogen and oxygen atoms in the molecule. This takes very little power. FAR LESS power than you would yield by simply burning the hydrogen. Think of it as pumping hydrogen from one holding area to the engine. Essentially that's all it is.Then, you're only getting a few dozen watts of power at most. 1 HP = 748 Watts. Physics works. Pay attention.
Do you even know what combustion means? What you are proposing is a device that puts out more energy than you put in. Burning hydrogen in the presence of oxygen results in nothing but water and energy in an ideal sense. That energy you get out is equal to the energy you put in to turn the water into hydrogen and oxygen in the first place. The real world is far less accomodating.You seem to be incapable of wrapping your head around this concept. You are only separating the hydrogen and oxygen atoms in the molecule. This takes very little power. FAR LESS power than you would yield by simply burning the hydrogen. Think of it as pumping hydrogen from one holding area to the engine. Essentially that's all it is.
Also, "pay attention"? Try using real logic and using your mind to see things from both sides before you try to play teacher. The fact that you are listed here as a tech adviser is starting to make me question the site as a whole. You are supposed to advise on facts, not opinions and lackluster attempts at sarcasm and humor.
This is astonishing.What you seem to miss is that water is a "fuel" in this process. The energy being released is held within the water much in the way that gasoline holds energy that is released.
Why is the pro side of this debate perpetually difficult for some people here to understand?
So are you saying that solar power is a perpetual type machine? If anything it's closer because you don't have to keep adding water to make it run. From what I've read your not creating or destroying any energy...H2O stores the energy and your basically cracking it open to release his energy. It's that simple. I'm not saying it works at all so no flames yet. Just read about and after all is said and done, try it, if it doesn't work your out maybe 25-30$ and you know he answer so you don't have to prove it to anymore. Just don't knock it when you've never tried it or at least seen it run in person and talked to whoever owned the vehicle.You're asserting it's a perpetual motion machine. You're severely wrong.
no luck yet....but still tryinHas anyone tried one of these conversion kits? I've heard good things from some of the mech. in my area. Any input? I've a 2008 4.0 Ranger.
Chuck
If you use solar to do the electrolysis, explain how your Rube Goldberg machine is better than a solar powered electric vehicle.So are you saying that solar power is a perpetual type machine? If anything it's closer because you don't have to keep adding water to make it run. From what I've read your not creating or destroying any energy...H2O stores the energy and your basically cracking it open to release his energy. It's that simple. I'm not saying it works at all so no flames yet. Just read about and after all is said and done, try it, if it doesn't work your out maybe 25-30$ and you know he answer so you don't have to prove it to anymore. Just don't knock it when you've never tried it or at least seen it run in person and talked to whoever owned the vehicle.
You must be just a little bit Special (See the Stephen Lynch song for a definition)Too bad you missed Chemistry so you could take all those extra Physics classes. The "power required to split the water into hydrogen and oxygen" is just a few amps. About the same if not less that your cigarette lighter uses. It's not like you need a nuclear reactor in the bed of the truck to pull this off.