1952 Ford 8N worth restoring?


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Yes, tractor tires are fluid filled, but not all the way, there are charts, charts are for 2 tires usually, so if it says 40gal thats 20gal per tire, because its done for the total WEIGHT of the fluid at the rear, 40gal is about 400lbs

If using it for lawns you don't want as much weight, so it doesn't leave tracks, so it's users choice as to how much WEIGHT you want/need for traction without sinking in
 


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on dads 2N we used winter grade windshield washer fluid. 33 gallons per tire I think. bought a whole pallet to do the job with. should of seen the flames when we burnt the empty boxes/jugs.
 

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Aparently these tires have tubes, my buddy said the tires can be repaired (they still have very deep tread and are not dry rotted) but have a couple gouges in them and then they just need need new tubes.

Nooooo idea how I would get them off the rims though. A little beyond a tire spoons capability... :dunno:
Break the bead loose with a sledge, spoon off tire.

Parts are everywhere, Dennis Carpenter and Steiner have just about anything you could need.

Not having live PTO isn't a big deal once you get on to it. Aside from the hand clutch thing on my bigger A-C's nothing I have has true live pto.

Depending on what you do you don't HAVE to have fluid in tractor tires, a lot of them are dry. Only one of mine has fluid in it (and it is the nasty stuff)

One thing about Ford... they didn't copy anybody. They had their own little theory about how to do things and if you are used to a different color there are a lot of oddities about them.

Moneywise you gotta do it for you, it will be hard to break even. N series used to be really popular but I think the new compact tractors like Kubota kinda gutted the market. Radiators and tires will kill ya. Hard to buy a tractor worth $800 running/driving that needs a $300 radiator and $500 worth of tires and come out ahead.

My last one when I got it (for free, had been sitting since the mid 80's)



A new radiator, used tires, new water pump, valve job, alternator/wiring and carb rebuild later it is my #2 horse... and a running WD is worth about $800. $1500 with new tires and nice paint.





 

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The 2N/9N had the PTO driven off the diff.

Those sherman trannys are fun. They'll flat out haul ass in high 4th. Way faster then whats safe with the ridiculious steering and horrid brakes.

Low 1st youll pull over a house at idle.
There's a 37 John Deere out back by an old barn that had a PTO on the differential, but it got lifted while we lived in the city.
My father used it farming in the 40s/50s. There's also old plows and stuff, a 1930s hay baler, and an old hay rake that started out as a horse drawn
 

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There's a 37 John Deere out back by an old barn that had a PTO on the differential, but it got lifted while we lived in the city.
My father used it farming in the 40s/50s. There's also old plows and stuff, a 1930s hay baler, and an old hay rake that started out as a horse drawn
I love old equipment like that.

I got an old 1 bottom plow for my cub. Bought it to plant a garden at the old house when the rototiller took a shit. But switching implements on the cub is a bitch.

One of these days though id like to take it to a plow days and see how well the cub can really break ground.
 

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There's a 37 John Deere out back by an old barn that had a PTO on the differential, but it got lifted while we lived in the city.
My father used it farming in the 40s/50s. There's also old plows and stuff, a 1930s hay baler, and an old hay rake that started out as a horse drawn
It comes out the axle housing below the diff and between the final drive bull gears, the differential is actually quite a ways up inside that thing and is independant of the PTO.

I don't know of any tractor that runs the PTO off the differential.
 

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It ran off the gears there somehow. There's also a belt drive on the left there in front of the flywheel.
Also the old baler and Rake
 

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I gave him 850 and a dozen silkies so it's a done deal. Picking it up sunday!
What did your rooster think about that? You'll know if he starts roosting on it :D
 

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I need to get a pic of my mom's old ford tractor. It doesn't have a color unless you consider rust a color. It's been nothing but rust as long as I remember but it started, drove good and had a 3 pt hitch with a scraper that we used to clear snow/gravel down our 1/8 mile driveway. Fun tractor, awkward shifter... Been a while but I think I remember which gears are what. Can't read anything on it due to the amount of rust.... It looks like this but rust colored lol. I remember it having that little hatch at the top so you could fill the gas tank. Wish I knew more about it.... I honestly don't know if it's an 8n or something else. Are there any specifics that separate models that I could look for to see what model tractor it is??? It's a lot like this one in the picture with the hatch on top and the distributor cap and points on the passenger side.
 

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It ran off the gears there somehow. There's also a belt drive on the left there in front of the flywheel.
Also the old baler and Rake
Way up in there down low, this is my '46 B (basically a 3/4 scale A) There is a stub shaft that goes from the splined socket to the shaft that comes out the back. In automotive terms that is the ring gear for the diff just to the left of it (none of that fancy swirly hypoid gear crap in here)



Diff as seen from above the bull gears:



The belt pulley drive on the side actually has the engine clutch inside of it.

The old two bangers are a really neat almost caveman crude machine, you really need to get it going. The back covers are interchangable a long ways newer. Not correct but they fit and you can get nice two way hydraulics if you go new enough.
 

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Ok so today I go to hear it fire up and find out... it is NOT a 52 model 8n... it is a 57 model 640...

Does that mean anything to anyone? I personally dont give a crap I just want a tractor and know nothing either way. Still good? Stay away? 800 and some chickens still a good deal?
 

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good deal. engine is a 134 cid ohv. still no live pto, but about 30 hp instead of 20. A “800” series would of been a 172 cid, 45 hp I think. the only fords id steer away from would be those with the “select-o-speed” transmission. the hundred series became the thousand series in the early/mid sixties, and paint went from red/cream to the off-white/ford blue. the 600 series became the 2000 and the 800 series became the 4000. in mid-64 the change from 6V to 12V took place. we had a early 64 4000. power steering was available by then as well as live pto
 
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Cool beans. It's being dropped off this afternoon. I'm gonna drive it up and down the road at 5mph to piss people off. I've always wanted to do that!
 


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