Why doesn't Ford bring diesel Rangers to the US?

[FCguy]

well diesel is a bit more difficult because it would be a new motor to the US and Ford would have to go thru the EPA lineup of crap im sure.

However I see no reason why they dont sell the four door cab in the US. Several trucks got a four door cab overseas but not in the US. Old toyotas did for one.

 

[robbieo11]

Need build pic's! RB

http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28833
here u are i need some rear doors from mexico or south -centarl america i here uk verisions are diffent

 

[REDNECK-02RANGER]

I Would Buy A Diesel Crew Cab Ranger If They Had One In The Usa. They Crew Cab Ranger In South America. I Need A Crew Cab Ranger For My Kids. I Hate The Explorer Sport Trac. I Rather Buy A Expllorer. The Only Way Is To Have A Crew Cab Diesel Ranger Is To Built It Yourself. I Heard That Ford Is Not Making Ranger After 2010. Is That True. I Think All The Other Companys Are Coming Out With Mid Size Trucks With Diesel In The Near Future. The F-150 Is Getting A 4.4 Diesel Engine Next Year, Y Not A Diesel Ranger. Come On Ford

 

[JohnnyO]

Another thing i wish they sold in North America is the four door Ranger. Ford doesn't think they would sell good here, which is bullcrap. I would love to own a four door Ranger, or a diesel Ranger.

The do make a four-door Ranger, it's called a Sport Trac.
Small diesels are hard to get past U.S. emissions regs.
So on one hand the govt wants energy efficient vehicles and on the other hand they impose regulations which prevent that from happening.

 

[ducarngr]

The reason for no crew-cab rangers is competition with the Sport-Trac. Ford does not sell the Sport Trac anywhere but the USA and if they offered the crew cab Ranger, it would compete directly with it. Frankly, it would snow it. The Sport Trac is neither hare nor tortoise.

 

[Matthew18]

the crash tests on those 4 door euro rangers suck compared to the ones in the states, theres a video on youtube, im guessing thats a reason why ford hasnt brought the 4 door rangers here yet

 

[machinist]

you guys all say that "if they sold a 4door diesel in america, id buy one in a heart beat"
i used to say the same thing.

i see the projects that some of you guys build on here. some are quite impressive. they never made a solid axle ranger...why dont you guys complain to ford about that? no you bit the bullet, and got your hands dirty.

im very fortunate to have access to a shop with just about every tool known to man.
but instead of sitting around "wanting" one.... i built one...

just a few finishing touches on the axle and intercooler then i will have pictures up.

 

[ducarngr]

the crash tests on those 4 door euro rangers suck compared to the ones in the states, theres a video on youtube, im guessing thats a reason why ford hasnt brought the 4 door rangers here yet

post a link?

 

[bbrown4.0]

Let's Jump on the Band Wagon

It seems that every other country besides the USA has a diesel Ranger. However, it is not just the Ranger. Diesel vehicles are becoming more popular as we focus more on the conservation of fuel companies such as BMW are switching to a new B series which offers diesel engines that offer both clean operation, performance, and economy. Ford of Europe (UK) offers diesel motors in almost every vehicle platform (even the new Focus Convertible). Ford knows that the diesel motor is powerful and can be very economical, but they need to invest in an add campaign (and the rest of the BIG 3 two) to show Americans that diesels are not the smoke belching pollutants of yesteryear and maybe then it would spark a new trend in diesels. Oh what a day it will be when I can go to my local Ford dealership and pick up a new 3.0 turbo diesel Ranger, but until then I will have to only just wish.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Id rather see a Ranger roll off the line with a 460 with a big edelbrock 4bbl and a 4sp.

Thats about as realsitic as seeing a diesel ranger in the US.

But everyone is entitled to dreams.

later,
Dustin

 

[ducarngr]

Id rather see a Ranger roll off the line with a 460 with a big edelbrock 4bbl and a 4sp.

Thats about as realsitic as seeing a diesel ranger in the US.

But everyone is entitled to dreams.

later,
Dustin

my '86 turbodiesel Ranger is no dream -- factory original.

 

[IRKillroy]

the 4 door ranger was tried years ago... and after a year failed and was replaced by the larger/wider sport trac.....

the diesel debate is interesting..... in foreign countries diesel is cheapier 'cause they don't require all the sulfates to be remove from the fuel... granted 5 US dollars a gallon of diesel in Germany isn't what you'd call cheap from our POV, but it's 3 dollars cheapier than gasoline/petrol....

our diesel engines would not run as efficiently in the US because we have such high emissions requirements.... it sucks I know.... but you can always buy the engine from there and ship it here, and throw it in your truck! I've been looking every so apathetically at that myself....

 

[ducarngr]

the 4 door ranger was tried years ago... and after a year failed and was replaced by the larger/wider sport trac.....

the diesel debate is interesting..... in foreign countries diesel is cheapier 'cause they don't require all the sulfates to be remove from the fuel... granted 5 US dollars a gallon of diesel in Germany isn't what you'd call cheap from our POV, but it's 3 dollars cheapier than gasoline/petrol....

if you check on the EU's emissions authority, and look up "diesel standards" you can see that Euro III and Euro IV have LOWER sulfur. Europe switched to low sulfur diesel about 10 years ago and then to ultra-low (ULSD) in 2008. the Euro defintion of ULSD is 10 ppm sulfur whereas the USA EPA definition is 15 ppm, so Euro diesel is currently lower sulfur. Wiki has a good article on it, with excellent footnotes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-low_sulfur_diesel

Diesel in germany and sweden (two big carmakers) is 2-5 ppm.

our diesel engines would not run as efficiently in the US because we have such high emissions requirements.... it sucks I know.... but you can always buy the engine from there and ship it here, and throw it in your truck! I've been looking every so apathetically at that myself....

The main issue with Euro diesel is the Cetane level, which is a MINIMUM of 50 for regular diesel. In the USA, reg diesel is 40 and premium diesel is 45. A euro engine would probably not run too well on US gas because of the slightly higher sulfur and lower cetane.

Diesel is more expensive in the USA for several reasons

1. Higher taxation. Diesel is perceived as a commercial fuel and our representatives feel it can be taxed higher.
2. Market penetration. Near me, one station has regular diesel for $2.39/gal and another one has it for $2.99/gal. Both are name brand statiosn (Sunoco and Shell, the shell is higher). Further down the road, another Shell has it for $2.29. And shell sells premium.

How can there be an 70 cent difference in the same product in the same zip code? You will never see this with gasoline.

If more vendors sold diesel fuel youd see more competition at the pumps.

 

[rangernut09011980]

This is true if your only source of diesel is petroleum.

I use B20 in my VW and my Ranger and the performance is phenomenal. The only issue with the Ranger was needing to change the fuel filter. I also changed some of the fuel lines preventatively since biodiesel "cleans" the fuel system.

Biodiesel is not widely available yet, but it could be fairly quickly. The Navy offers B10 at their BXs (as well as E85 and NG fill ups, bleh)

The beauty of diesel is that it can be made from waste crops or any surplus crops: sugar cane, soybean, rapeseed, pine trees, and of course corn.

Rapeseed is the cheapest and least problematic to the food supply. In terms of energy per cc, biodiesel is no different from petrodiesel.

Plus, you can argue that biodiesel is a net CO2 user, rather than producer since the crops use C02 to grow and the engine does not exhaust it much.

You just nailed the problem with the "CO2 causes global warming" theory if plants feed on CO2 how can CO2 contribute to global warming

GLOBAL WARMING IS A MYTH

 

[ducarngr]

You just nailed the problem with the "CO2 causes global warming" theory if plants feed on CO2 how can CO2 contribute to global warming

GLOBAL WARMING IS A MYTH

well that's all well and good but not relevant to the topic!