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Why doesn't Ford bring diesel Rangers to the US?

Would you buy a Ford Ranger with a diesel engine? (If Yes, pick more than one)

  • No

    Votes: 4 7.1%
  • Yes

    Votes: 52 92.9%
  • + only a four cylinder to get better fuel mileage

    Votes: 12 21.4%
  • + only a six or larger to get better power

    Votes: 24 42.9%
  • + only if the price isn't more than 10% higher than the gas models

    Votes: 17 30.4%
  • + only if the price isn't more than 25% higher than the gas models

    Votes: 7 12.5%
  • + only a 4WD model

    Votes: 34 60.7%
  • + only a quad-cab

    Votes: 15 26.8%

  • Total voters
    56

i know its not relevant but the quote was from a previous post in this topic LOL
 
You just nailed the problem with the "CO2 causes global warming" theory if plants feed on CO2 how can CO2 contribute to global warming

GLOBAL WARMING IS A MYTH

it could be that there aren't enough plants absorbing the amount of CO2 we are producing...

the funny thing is, an article I read says that CO2 isn't the main contributor to global warming...

Carbon dioxide contributes about twelve percent of the greenhouse effect, while water vapor contributes thirty six percent of the greenhouse effect. Methane causes five to ten percent of Global Warming, while Ozone makes around three to seven percent of the greenhouse effect possible.


so with that said it mentions that the sun fluctuates in strength about every 60 years and that is contributing to the increase we are seeing right now.

I think there IS global warming, but I think it's natural... and the only way we can damage the natural cycle would be to destroy the actual atmosphere itself... effectively killing us all in the process...
 
The reason for no crew-cab rangers is competition with the Sport-Trac. Ford does not sell the Sport Trac anywhere but the USA and if they offered the crew cab Ranger, it would compete directly with it. Frankly, it would snow it. The Sport Trac is neither hare nor tortoise.

You don't see a whole lot of sporttracs on the road. they are ugly as hell and limited funtional
 
You don't see a whole lot of sporttracs on the road. they are ugly as hell and limited funtional

maybe by you, but you see a good number of them in the city.. don't know why, but they are popular with small-time contractors around here
 
maybe by you, but you see a good number of them in the city.. don't know why, but they are popular with small-time contractors around here

I had a meeting in phoenix today. On my way back I saw the ugly explorer thats missing its rear half(sporttrac). I saw the bed was full of plants and I look over and an old lady was driving it. I think I'll stick with my reg cab over the sportstrac(given one or the other for free)
 
why not the diesel from south america? 3 litre turbo, 16 valve twin cam 4 cyl! check out ford argentina. I'm x-pat,live in mexico. 2005 crew cab 2.3 duratec 4.56. luv luv luv it. there has been 4 door everthing here for years. ranger,colorado,dakota,toyota hilux, nissan,even mitsubishi!
 
the same here in Honduras, the truck market is dominated by crew cab trucks, and diesel ones:D
 
i think that ford should release a diesel an of you hear if the mahindra diesel pickup coming out late 09 or early 2010? it seems to be about the same size as a ranger. i will be getting one of these if they sell em in canada. theres a write up here also i found the us website for these trucks and it says fall 09 here
 
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who knows someone who would ship the rangers from england.

You can ship it your self, but then you have to get it USA-legal. chances are, this is near impossible given the different diesel formulation available in Europe (Cetane 50-60 and higher). You'll have to pay a Registered Importer to do the testing and modifications, if possible. I had a motorcycle imported and the EPA testing (JUST the testing) was going to cost over two grand until we figured out the same model had previously been imported and met US specs without modification.

It would be easier for you to buy an older Ranger and convert it to diesel. The motor mounts are different BUT the gas models have them, so you just have to buy the rubber pieces and an engine from a Mitsubishi Pajero. There is one on ebay right now for $2500 -- engine and 5 spd 4wd tranny -- 2.5L intercooled turbo -- 150hp. If you have a 4wd Ranger, you just buy the rubber mounts (about $300/set) and bolt it right in. It just has to meet the original year emissions for the truck, so the older the better.
 
You can ship it your self, but then you have to get it USA-legal. chances are, this is near impossible given the different diesel formulation available in Europe (Cetane 50-60 and higher). You'll have to pay a Registered Importer to do the testing and modifications, if possible. I had a motorcycle imported and the EPA testing (JUST the testing) was going to cost over two grand until we figured out the same model had previously been imported and met US specs without modification.

It would be easier for you to buy an older Ranger and convert it to diesel. The motor mounts are different BUT the gas models have them, so you just have to buy the rubber pieces and an engine from a Mitsubishi Pajero. There is one on ebay right now for $2500 -- engine and 5 spd 4wd tranny -- 2.5L intercooled turbo -- 150hp. If you have a 4wd Ranger, you just buy the rubber mounts (about $300/set) and bolt it right in. It just has to meet the original year emissions for the truck, so the older the better.

Technically, you can not import an overseas Ranger into the United States... There's a 25 year rule...
 
Technically, you can not import an overseas Ranger into the United States... There's a 25 year rule...

You've misread the 25 year "rule"..

If you are importing a vehicle 25 years or more, you do not have to homologate it with US standards, i.e. EPA and DOT/NHTSA.

You may import ANY vehicle that can be converted to US standards. If you import a NEW vehicle, it must conform to the model year standards of that vehicle as if it were sold in the USA originally.

here are the general rules for importing vehicles:
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/CARS/RULES/IMPORT/FAQ Site/index.html

I've imported 5 motorcycles, i've gone thru this 5 times. only 2 were >25 years old, the other 3 were fortunately similar to the american model sold so the conversion was merely swapping the speedo to miles, adding side reflectors and a few other things.
 
As a 3.0 liter turbo diesel crew cab ranger, I´ll give you my personal opinion.
This engine is somewhere between euro3 and euro4 specs, but if you don´t run on ulsd, you could get your injectors or common rail pump totaled. This doesn´t happen with the old engine, a 2.8 powerstroke with variable geometry turbo, it perfoms less than the new but you can pee into the fuel tank and it will start. This 2.8 engine wouldn´t meet your emissions standards.
The diesel that we produce here in argentina has a very high count of sulfur, so to make this fuel compatible with the 3.0 they have to add manny aditives to it and makes it a hell more expensive than the regular diesel.
The thing is, to introduce in the US a midsize truck that was designed to meet lower emissions and safety standars, Ford would have to invest tons of money to offer a truck with not too different features than the ones that are being selling there in the US. And it should run ulsd.
sorry for my english....
 

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