So I'm a little confused about the '10+ Rangers...

[Hopman]

Why would you want a 2.3 Explorer? A 4.0 OHV is just adaquate...

He was looking for something that was good on gas and that he could hose out after a day of hikeing, and had four doors to haul the family & stuff.

An automatic 2WD 4-banger Jeep makes less sense that that Explorer.

 

[Fx4wannabe01]

The 2.5L lima puts out more power than the 2.3...and it in a super light 01 XL reg cab short bed 2wd isn't adequate enough in the power department. I'd hate to deal with a even less powered engine in a even more heavier rig! Just sayin'.

 

[Hopman]

It's not the power in the truck, it's how you use it. I find the 2.3 in my Ranger has plenty of power for what I use it for. Besides, having a stick shift behind that 4-banger allows you to use that power more effectivly, as you loose more when you have to drive an auto tranny.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

He was looking for something that was good on gas and that he could hose out after a day of hikeing, and had four doors to haul the family & stuff.

An automatic 2WD 4-banger Jeep makes less sense that that Explorer.

True on the Jeep, but I know at times it feels like the 4.0 in our '94 Explorer is fighting for its life trying to maintain speed, I can't imagine trying it with a smaller engine... especially that much smaller of an engine.

 

[Hopman]

I look it it this way: Less power = less chance of getting into trouble. Besides, where's the challenge in driving when you have power out the wazoo? When you have a lack of power, you've got to use your brain and plan your passing moves out.

Besides, a lack of power can be a benefit in sloppy conditions. You have less chance of overpowering the road. Sometimes less is more. Less power = more mileage.

 

[ZMan]

I worked on a '07 Sport at work with a 4cylinder. A sport is basically an EDGE, which has the 4x4 Torsion bar front suspension, without the differential or transfer case. There is a number of people who have converted EDGE's to 4x4. Maybe they still offer this in the new models?

 

[02RangerXLT]

I worked on a '07 Sport at work with a 4cylinder. A sport is basically an EDGE, which has the 4x4 Torsion bar front suspension, without the differential or transfer case. There is a number of people who have converted EDGE's to 4x4. Maybe they still offer this in the new models?

So this sport had torsion bars? Neat... do the current '10 Sports also have torsion bars?

Edit: scratch that, new sports only have the 4.0 in them...

 

[Fx4wannabe01]

I worked on a '07 Sport at work with a 4cylinder. A sport is basically an EDGE, which has the 4x4 Torsion bar front suspension, without the differential or transfer case. There is a number of people who have converted EDGE's to 4x4. Maybe they still offer this in the new models?

I highly doubt that was a 4cyl.... Either it was a 4cyl and not a sport. Or it was a sport that definately wasn't a 4cyl.

So this sport had torsion bars? Neat... do the current '10 Sports also have torsion bars?

Edit: scratch that, new sports only have the 4.0 in them...

EDIT: scratch scratch, '09+ Sports can be had in 4cyl 2.3 2wd in COIL SPRING suspension. Believe also they can only be had in reg cab in that config. Only the 4.0 2wd sports from 09+ have torsion bars and xcab. Obviously all 4x4's have torsion bars.

 

[02RangerXLT]

According to the build and price, you can only get the current SPORT in a super cab with a 4.0... so unless its a special order, you can't get the 2.3 in them...

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I look it it this way: Less power = less chance of getting into trouble. Besides, where's the challenge in driving when you have power out the wazoo? When you have a lack of power, you've got to use your brain and plan your passing moves out.

Besides, a lack of power can be a benefit in sloppy conditions. You have less chance of overpowering the road. Sometimes less is more. Less power = more mileage.

Yeah right.

That four wizzer will be driving at WOT full time in a heavy four door Explorer and hammering down gas and a ferocious rate just trying to keep the darn thing moving. There is a fine line on your less is more theory, there comes a point where less is less and you are underpowered. An engine that is beating its guts out trying to accomplish the task at hand will not last nearly as long as one that is idling along toying with the task either. If you notice in full size trucks (that weighs similar to a fully dressed Explorer) that the base V-6 engines and the decent sized V-8's are rated nearly the same MPG, I think the 4.2 is rated 2 mpg better than my 5.4, and I have personally beat its rating.

I can "overpower" the road at will on a sunny dry day in my DD and leave a nice black line with a smoketrail, and I wouldn't pick anything else for winter conditions either. Think with your head and take it easy and it will do fine in winter driving as well. Dropping it down to second is great for around town as it is harder for my 350 lb-ft to break loose the tires and keeps you from driving too fast. Even my Ranger will get squirrelly if you mess around with it on slick roads, and most four bangers have more power than it does.

 

[Original_Ranger84]

I look it it this way: Less power = less chance of getting into trouble. Besides, where's the challenge in driving when you have power out the wazoo? When you have a lack of power, you've got to use your brain and plan your passing moves out.

Besides, a lack of power can be a benefit in sloppy conditions. You have less chance of overpowering the road. Sometimes less is more. Less power = more mileage.

Yeah you'll get in less trouble with the law maybe... but on a highway trying to pass or something your screwed. And driving shouldn't be a challenge, if its a challenge your concentrating too much on trying to keep up rather then keep safe. With the power I can speed up when I need to. I plan My passing anyways, but its nice not to have to worry if I'm gonna have to make it or not.

A lack of power is actually worse in sloppy conditions IMO... Because the driver has it in his head that he has less power and doesn't have to worry about it. While a guy with a powerful engine knows he has to be carful with the gas or he is gonna get in trouble. And in towing less power can = worse mileage.

As for the rangers I don't think 4 cylinder 4x4's have been avalible since the 90's, and I don't think you can get a 2010 4 cylinder 4x4 because they don't have a 4 cylinder 4x4 transmission do they?

 

[Fx4wannabe01]

Guys, I think we're past the 4cyl vs 6cyl thing. The one who started it made his own "why 4 > 6" thread.

According to the build and price, you can only get the current SPORT in a super cab with a 4.0... so unless its a special order, you can't get the 2.3 in them...

You're probably right for 2010+. But in '09, that was a combo I wanted because it was a combo you can actually get: 2.3L regcab coilspring Sport. Almost ordered myself one in Grabber Orange back in late '08.

 

[angerranger54]

You sure couldn't for '09... Looks like too many people bitched lol.

I still want a damn reg cab though, which it still won't let you.

i have a 2009 sport supercab, 4x4, stick shit