Seriously guys! I need help!!!

[kena]

The IAC (idle air control) valve controls the engine speed at idle. Remove it and give it a good cleaning, then be careful to replace it in the same position it was in when you took it off. They tend to carbon-up and cause idle problems like you are experiencing. You might get lucky.

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Idle-Air-Parts-BWD_3488675-P_757_R|GRPFUELAMS_536978339___
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http://www.autozone.com/autozone/ca...alve&fromWhere=&searchText=&_requestid=153857
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[fastpakr]

Did you put the transmission in neutral when you ran the tests? If not, go back and do it properly, then post your results.

 

[jaymegriffiths]

The IAC (idle air control) valve controls the engine speed at idle. Remove it and give it a good cleaning, then be careful to replace it in the same position it was in when you took it off. They tend to carbon-up and cause idle problems like you are experiencing. You might get lucky.

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Idle-Air-Parts-BWD_3488675-P_757_R|GRPFUELAMS_536978339___
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http://www.autozone.com/autozone/ca...alve&fromWhere=&searchText=&_requestid=153857
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It was replaced aready

 

[fastpakr]

Clearly you don't need help very badly if you're going to pick and choose which questions to respond to. I didn't take the time to respond just to waste my time.

 

[jaymegriffiths]

Clearly you don't need help very badly if you're going to pick and choose which questions to respond to. I didn't take the time to respond just to waste my time.

Dude. Chill. Seriously you sound pissed off 24/7. I do appreciate your help just never got the time to do it. and i didn't see the point in responding, as i had no info and didn't see the need to retort. Today i replaced the fuel filter in the canister to the front of the truck in front of the tank swich. For some reason there was no filter in the canister. I put one in anyways. I also noticed there is another filter farther along the fuel line. I will probably change that one soon but i cannot afford to right now. NOW, today while jiggling the cap of the dstributer My dad noticed the cap was very loose. I havent had a chance to drive it much but it hasn't repeated the normal idle surge. we got a new distributer so either we'll change it out for the other distributer or just check the timing on this one...
*note, Fastpaker: i will go do that right now. If you arent too upset that i didn't respond immediately any advice you have to offer would be greatly appreciated just keep the heated comments to yourself. we're all grown ups here.

 

[fastpakr]

I'm not upset, but I hate wasting time trying to help people that choose not to help themselves. It was a fairly simple question - was the trans in Neutral as it should have been or not?

 

[jaymegriffiths]

OK: after clearing the codes yesterday, I did not frive the truck before checking the codes, resulting in a code 11 in memory. Now, I checked them once more and received a code 67, as before but the test was conducted in nuetral. Also, in the memory codes now was a code 95. soon as i read what the codes mean i will edit this and add them.

 

[fastpakr]

OK, you definitely have an issue in the neutral sensing circuit. Take a look at the wires for that going into the trans. Has the trans on this truck been swapped? If the PCM think's the truck is in gear, it's not going to know when it needs to control the idle properly.

Do you have a decent local library? If so, you may be able to find the appropriate Mitchell manual for your '88 in the reference section. It will have a great troubleshooting procedure for locating the problem.

 

[jaymegriffiths]

I'm not upset, but I hate wasting time trying to help people that choose not to help themselves. It was a fairly simple question - was the trans in Neutral as it should have been or not?

no, it was not a question. It was a statement. in you response you said "go back and do it again" sorry but that doesn't sound like a question to me therefore why would i "answer" something i dont even comprehend to be a question!?! If you wanted to know if it was in nuetral or not you should have said "was it in nuetral?", and an immediate response would have followed. Im not here to argue or deal with pissed off people.

OK, you definitely have an issue in the neutral sensing circuit. Take a look at the wires for that going into the trans. Has the trans on this truck been swapped? If the PCM think's the truck is in gear, it's not going to know when it needs to control the idle properly.

Do you have a decent local library? If so, you may be able to find the appropriate Mitchell manual for your '88 in the reference section. It will have a great troubleshooting procedure for locating the problem.

I do have a library here but im pretty sure they dont have haynes or equivalent. plus i cant take out books i owe them 30 bucks
If you read my next post you would have noticed the cap on the distributer was VERY loose. Im hoping this was the cause, but I'll check into the whole transmission thing because yes, the tranny was switched this winter and the messed up idle never happended till after the switch. Hopefully I'll get a chance to look at it today.


*NOTE: when I took off the cannister for the fuel filter along the framerail, there was NO filter in the canister. I put the new one in and was left baffled. Why would there be an empty cannister for the fuel to run through?

Oh I never mentioned My uncle has mitchell on demand. could i use the computer program to diagnose it?

 

[fastpakr]

no, it was not a question. It was a statement. in you response you said "go back and do it again" sorry but that doesn't sound like a question to me therefore why would i "answer" something i dont even comprehend to be a question!?! If you wanted to know if it was in nuetral or not you should have said "was it in nuetral?", and an immediate response would have followed. Im not here to argue or deal with pissed off people.

Did you put the transmission in neutral when you ran the tests? If not, go back and do it properly, then post your results.

Sure sounded like a question to me. Not sure what part of 'did you' doesn't sound like a question.

I do have a library here but im pretty sure they dont have haynes or equivalent. plus i cant take out books i owe them 30 bucks
If you read my next post you would have noticed the cap on the distributer was VERY loose. Im hoping this was the cause, but I'll check into the whole transmission thing because yes, the tranny was switched this winter and the messed up idle never happended till after the switch. Hopefully I'll get a chance to look at it today.


*NOTE: when I took off the cannister for the fuel filter along the framerail, there was NO filter in the canister. I put the new one in and was left baffled. Why would there be an empty cannister for the fuel to run through?

Oh I never mentioned My uncle has mitchell on demand. could i use the computer program to diagnose it?

I'm not sure on the years, but your canister may have actually been a reservoir. If so, it was never intended to be opened and may be very difficult to seal again. If you do a search you'll find places where AllanD has explained the details of the issue in the past.

Your distributor being loose is an issue, but you CANNOT just ignore codes the computer is throwing out, because they are there specifically because a problem exists. In this case, there is a problem with your neutral sensing circuit preventing the computer from controlling the idle properly. Sounds like you have at least two issues, and both need attention.

I've never looked at the Mitchell on Demand system, but it may very well have what you need. As far as the Library, the Mitchell is nothing like a Haynes manual. They're usually found in the reference section and each book probably weighs 20 pounds. Worth a look if the MoD system doesn't help you out.

 

[jaymegriffiths]

Did you put the transmission in neutral when you ran the tests? If not, go back and do it properly, then post your results.

I dont actually know but this is either a closed end question or a retorical question. Immediately after asking the question you STATED that i should go back do it properly and post results, and the alternative was that it was done correctly, in which case you have the results. there was nothing for me to say. seriously why does it matter. you have your info, im done fighting

 

[RangerFabWorks]

I dont actually know but this is either a closed end question or a retorical question. Immediately after asking the question you STATED that i should go back do it properly and post results, and the alternative was that it was done correctly, in which case you have the results. there was nothing for me to say. seriously why does it matter. you have your info, im done fighting

no offence, and im not trying to flame. but fastpakr asked a question, then stated that if it was not done properly, to go back and recheck, because the code may have come up differently. fastpkr is trying to help you and you keep going back at him for a simple thing he said. so if you want help, and someone says something that maybe you dont like, take what he has to offer with a grain of salt, and move on. this is like friken kindergarden crap here.


any way, i would def look into fixing you neutral safety device. also, have you tried running seafoam through your engine. there is a great writeup on it in the product review section. this might help out your engine alot. also, how many miles are on your engine? when was the last time you checked your cat converter? it may have burned out, and some pieces may have broken up, and clog the opening. do you notice if it is down on power at all when you step on the gas?

 

[jaymegriffiths]

no offence, and im not trying to flame. but fastpakr asked a question, then stated that if it was not done properly, to go back and recheck, because the code may have come up differently. fastpkr is trying to help you and you keep going back at him for a simple thing he said. so if you want help, and someone says something that maybe you dont like, take what he has to offer with a grain of salt, and move on. this is like friken kindergarden crap here.


any way, i would def look into fixing you neutral safety device. also, have you tried running seafoam through your engine. there is a great writeup on it in the product review section. this might help out your engine alot. also, how many miles are on your engine? when was the last time you checked your cat converter? it may have burned out, and some pieces may have broken up, and clog the opening. do you notice if it is down on power at all when you step on the gas?

Thanks for taking sides. no i havent tried sea foam although i would love to when i can afford to.(next week) also, no i havent checked the cat although i may do that soon.Like, very soon. WTF is a nuetral safety device? my 5 speed R1 has as far as I know: 1 wire for the speed sensor, and one wire for the back up lights. I can't recall any other wires...
Please explain in more detail.

 

[RangerFabWorks]

Thanks for taking sides. no i havent tried sea foam although i would love to when i can afford to.(next week) also, no i havent checked the cat although i may do that soon.Like, very soon. WTF is a nuetral safety device? my 5 speed R1 has as far as I know: 1 wire for the speed sensor, and one wire for the back up lights. I can't recall any other wires...
Please explain in more detail.

sorry i meant what was mentioned earlier the neutral sensing circuit is what i would check for. thats bad typing on my part.

 

[HndMeDnBroncoII]

the neutral safety switch is on the clutch pedal for a standard tranny i believe and the cannister is just a resevior no filter needed ive seen it mentioned be alland many times
it also sounds to me like the injectors are just dumping fuel in double check thos e codes
mitchell might help and access to the libriary repair sections can be gained through this site in one of the stickys so look around and youll find it good luck
P.s no punctuation equals a run on sentance