corerftech
Well-Known Member
That should raise an eyebrow.
Soon my son will Grad MCL from U of M and I will be free to relocate to farmland away from Memphis.
His education is keeping me bound tightly to Memphis.... and May is not too far off.
And I am a bit nuts on experimental crap, like seriously whack.
I have Frankentruck, my 1990 twin plug grocery getter available thereafter for some experimental work.
In lieu of Methanol and all of its greatness and suckiness.... Ethanol is a viable HP fuel and has far less SUCKINESS than Methanol (cheaper too). Its also possible to produce this at home, legally, and in mass quantities.
I will move to a 15 acre residence with fields avail for crops. This has been the plan since I moved here from So Cal 5 years ago.
I intend to obtain a Federal Alcohol Fuel Plant permit allowing me to distill an unlimited amount of E100 (E96 really)
TN allows for a $0.00, 10k gallon AFP as well. The GOVT and STATE are HAPPY to embrace another tree hugger envirospaz wanting to run from fossil fuels and if I sell the ethanol, as of 2021 IRS filing date, receive a $1.01 tax break per gallon of fuel between 150 and 190 proof after denaturing. Yes, the govt will help me save money making RACE CAR booze!! It used to be $0.51/gallon period, if only consumed by yourself but in 2005 they ended that and now you have to sell it to enjoy the ax break, or use it for your business.
Yes a UTOPIAN thought and I am far from an environmentalist. Moreso I am a cheapskate that likes his cake and to eat it too and I think out of the box, and often way out....... maybe too far.
Where I am moving to (and live now), Sorghum grows well and Sweet Sroghum is 78% liquid with 20% raw sugar avail for conversion with 15% more in starch. Thats 50lbs of convertible fuel liquid for every 100lbs of Sorghum stalk. I am in the AG biz as a profession and so I have ALL the connections from SEED to SILLAGE sale to make this happen and be cost effective. Sorghum is the HIGHEST yield, lowest energy cost, simplist biosource to produce alcohol from on earth. 3% higher yield from corn and 600 gallons more per acre!! That should cause a pause to think....
Tainted booze is on the horizon for fuel. Sorghum is equivalent to sugar cane in process and alcohol conversion.
I did well in chemistry a long time ago...
CORN is OUT! Good ol' MILO is in. Good for livestock, the ground/soil, no Nitrogen adds (Read: Russian Fertilizer) needed and recovery with a wheat cycle in winter. (Nitrogen recovery)
Like GOD INTENDED fuel to be made!!
I DIGRESS.......
So fast forward to my intentions.
Raise static compression (if possible) to 12-13:1. Yes theoretically I can go 15:1 or more but its excessive and not needed. Its problematic above 13, 12/13 is easy on engine with good output improvement and as I have read, easier starting and peak efficiency.
Replace fuel system with stainless and seals with viton, harden the system for 95/5 (Alcohol/water)
Install my extra Microsquirt on the shelf and make a run of pure Ethanol.
Its not to get more HP, its to get the conversion complete, reliable at typical operating temperatures and learn to tune Ethanol. Its testing cold start conditions, can the engine be started NEAT at 30 degrees F or lower, oil change/dilution testing, etc, fuel system EVAP changes to keep water ingress at bay (but AZEOTROPE Alcohol/H2O is 95/5% so at "column still" concentrations as dropped, the alcohol as I understand is pretty much infused with as much water as it can absorb. So corrosiveness is what it is regardless. But nonetheless, the Frankentruck is the ideal candidate for the experiment. Water is NOT a concern, it makes the Ethanol Octane equivalence about 120 points.
As well, the production of 800 gallon/acre of Ethanol for a pittance is quite a thought.
2 acres devoted handles the entire years consumption by one or two vehicles.
It also allows me to in future, convert the E85 V8 swapped ranger to E100 (in the works) and have actual High Performance fuel avail in my barn...... and the ability to tune it.
Keeps my FARM property tax break alive too.
I help the environment and would be on leading edge of Sorghum Ethanol producers in MidSouth, helping farmers get OFF the CORN agenda and onto FOOD products they should be growing (or Sorghum.... LOL)
90% of the cropland I service already is dedicated to alcohol or fuel production. Arkansas is RICE for BEER (Busch agricultural in Jonesboro), CORN for Ethanol or SOY for Plastic and Diesel. Hell I service 3 Biodiesel plants directly!!
Id like someone to grow some good tomatoes or some Okra.... not yellow SOY for a barrel of BD.
It starts with the contemplation of raising the CR of the 2.3L to 12/13:1 to ensure better starts and not wasting anti-knock/115 Octane equivalence.
Compression
SEALS/Alcohol hardening
Timing
Fuel Flow (pump/injector size, fuel lines/filter, etc)
14lb stock injectors are good for 200HP at 85% DC. Thats easily the extra 35% flow I need for fuel.
I believe the stock system would support the fuel needs of an otherwise stock 2.3L, no special cam, etc.
Not knowing ANYTHING about the valve clearance and combustion chamber design of the 2.3L, 1990 twin plug head, how tight is the valve clearance? Could .040 or more be milled from head to make a simple increase (even if only progressively along the way)?? Can I get to 11:1, 12:1, 13:1 and still not kiss a valve?? Or will I need to go to a different piston to make things work?? My limits are that I DO NOT want to spend MONEY on new parts, but to let a mill give me what might be available naturally. Optimization is FAR from the desire, make it work and reliable is the objective.
Its for discussion and thought, not application at this point. I have fuel cost at less than $2/gal from SEED to STORAGE so its a viable self-reliance experiment as well. Methanol is $5.50 a gallon and is the closest analog to E100. Therefore I will NOT be attempting this until (M100 is too darned expensive even for short tests) I have a small permitted still and am able to make 10 gallons of experimental fuel from whatever grain I get from my clients and industry. Thats the cool part. I only need to have the permits and a small still to get the vehicle tests underway, not the whole tamale and full investment of Sorghum plant.
A truck full of corn/wheat/rice (all the grains I handle), some Alpha Amylase and Glucoamylase, some yeast and I can have 10-20 gallons for testing in a week!
Thanks for the input and hope its an entertaining read.
Soon my son will Grad MCL from U of M and I will be free to relocate to farmland away from Memphis.
His education is keeping me bound tightly to Memphis.... and May is not too far off.
And I am a bit nuts on experimental crap, like seriously whack.
I have Frankentruck, my 1990 twin plug grocery getter available thereafter for some experimental work.
In lieu of Methanol and all of its greatness and suckiness.... Ethanol is a viable HP fuel and has far less SUCKINESS than Methanol (cheaper too). Its also possible to produce this at home, legally, and in mass quantities.
I will move to a 15 acre residence with fields avail for crops. This has been the plan since I moved here from So Cal 5 years ago.
I intend to obtain a Federal Alcohol Fuel Plant permit allowing me to distill an unlimited amount of E100 (E96 really)
TN allows for a $0.00, 10k gallon AFP as well. The GOVT and STATE are HAPPY to embrace another tree hugger envirospaz wanting to run from fossil fuels and if I sell the ethanol, as of 2021 IRS filing date, receive a $1.01 tax break per gallon of fuel between 150 and 190 proof after denaturing. Yes, the govt will help me save money making RACE CAR booze!! It used to be $0.51/gallon period, if only consumed by yourself but in 2005 they ended that and now you have to sell it to enjoy the ax break, or use it for your business.
Yes a UTOPIAN thought and I am far from an environmentalist. Moreso I am a cheapskate that likes his cake and to eat it too and I think out of the box, and often way out....... maybe too far.
Where I am moving to (and live now), Sorghum grows well and Sweet Sroghum is 78% liquid with 20% raw sugar avail for conversion with 15% more in starch. Thats 50lbs of convertible fuel liquid for every 100lbs of Sorghum stalk. I am in the AG biz as a profession and so I have ALL the connections from SEED to SILLAGE sale to make this happen and be cost effective. Sorghum is the HIGHEST yield, lowest energy cost, simplist biosource to produce alcohol from on earth. 3% higher yield from corn and 600 gallons more per acre!! That should cause a pause to think....
Tainted booze is on the horizon for fuel. Sorghum is equivalent to sugar cane in process and alcohol conversion.
I did well in chemistry a long time ago...
CORN is OUT! Good ol' MILO is in. Good for livestock, the ground/soil, no Nitrogen adds (Read: Russian Fertilizer) needed and recovery with a wheat cycle in winter. (Nitrogen recovery)
Like GOD INTENDED fuel to be made!!
I DIGRESS.......
So fast forward to my intentions.
Raise static compression (if possible) to 12-13:1. Yes theoretically I can go 15:1 or more but its excessive and not needed. Its problematic above 13, 12/13 is easy on engine with good output improvement and as I have read, easier starting and peak efficiency.
Replace fuel system with stainless and seals with viton, harden the system for 95/5 (Alcohol/water)
Install my extra Microsquirt on the shelf and make a run of pure Ethanol.
Its not to get more HP, its to get the conversion complete, reliable at typical operating temperatures and learn to tune Ethanol. Its testing cold start conditions, can the engine be started NEAT at 30 degrees F or lower, oil change/dilution testing, etc, fuel system EVAP changes to keep water ingress at bay (but AZEOTROPE Alcohol/H2O is 95/5% so at "column still" concentrations as dropped, the alcohol as I understand is pretty much infused with as much water as it can absorb. So corrosiveness is what it is regardless. But nonetheless, the Frankentruck is the ideal candidate for the experiment. Water is NOT a concern, it makes the Ethanol Octane equivalence about 120 points.
As well, the production of 800 gallon/acre of Ethanol for a pittance is quite a thought.
2 acres devoted handles the entire years consumption by one or two vehicles.
It also allows me to in future, convert the E85 V8 swapped ranger to E100 (in the works) and have actual High Performance fuel avail in my barn...... and the ability to tune it.
Keeps my FARM property tax break alive too.
I help the environment and would be on leading edge of Sorghum Ethanol producers in MidSouth, helping farmers get OFF the CORN agenda and onto FOOD products they should be growing (or Sorghum.... LOL)
90% of the cropland I service already is dedicated to alcohol or fuel production. Arkansas is RICE for BEER (Busch agricultural in Jonesboro), CORN for Ethanol or SOY for Plastic and Diesel. Hell I service 3 Biodiesel plants directly!!
Id like someone to grow some good tomatoes or some Okra.... not yellow SOY for a barrel of BD.
It starts with the contemplation of raising the CR of the 2.3L to 12/13:1 to ensure better starts and not wasting anti-knock/115 Octane equivalence.
Compression
SEALS/Alcohol hardening
Timing
Fuel Flow (pump/injector size, fuel lines/filter, etc)
14lb stock injectors are good for 200HP at 85% DC. Thats easily the extra 35% flow I need for fuel.
I believe the stock system would support the fuel needs of an otherwise stock 2.3L, no special cam, etc.
Not knowing ANYTHING about the valve clearance and combustion chamber design of the 2.3L, 1990 twin plug head, how tight is the valve clearance? Could .040 or more be milled from head to make a simple increase (even if only progressively along the way)?? Can I get to 11:1, 12:1, 13:1 and still not kiss a valve?? Or will I need to go to a different piston to make things work?? My limits are that I DO NOT want to spend MONEY on new parts, but to let a mill give me what might be available naturally. Optimization is FAR from the desire, make it work and reliable is the objective.
Its for discussion and thought, not application at this point. I have fuel cost at less than $2/gal from SEED to STORAGE so its a viable self-reliance experiment as well. Methanol is $5.50 a gallon and is the closest analog to E100. Therefore I will NOT be attempting this until (M100 is too darned expensive even for short tests) I have a small permitted still and am able to make 10 gallons of experimental fuel from whatever grain I get from my clients and industry. Thats the cool part. I only need to have the permits and a small still to get the vehicle tests underway, not the whole tamale and full investment of Sorghum plant.
A truck full of corn/wheat/rice (all the grains I handle), some Alpha Amylase and Glucoamylase, some yeast and I can have 10-20 gallons for testing in a week!
Thanks for the input and hope its an entertaining read.