Need some opinions on a few V8's plus a few other ?s

[red86]

If you want cheap power and parts go for option 2. Yeah all of these guys will give you the gears but the sad thing is the stock chevy numbers, or sorry these no-nothings call them chebys. Bottom line is that the chev combo will give you good horses and a fuel management system that is in the current century. F U EECV

 

[RangerRock]

I figured as much, but wasnt positive.

Converting to EFI, is begining to become more costly than i thought it would lol. Still not to bad though, so far. Might just take a little longer than planned.
But in the end I think it will be more than worth the money and effort. But at least I'm getting together a good plan for what i want at the end.

Now the biggest issue I have for now is figureing out what all has to be done to the block, and rotateing assembly. It was running when parked, but that was 11 years ago and there's 138k+ miles on it.

Yeah true, though would rahter see a Ford between the fender wells, but the chevy's still an option, depending on the cost of the Ford build. TBI is a little dated too if I'm not mistaken chevy was useing TBI in the late 80's. Could run a TBI conversion kit on the 5.8L and probabbly run it as is. Though have to agree parts for chevy's do tend to be cheaper and more plentiful. But as I've been told many times Chevy's will make more power for les money, but Ford's are capable of makeing more power if you willing to spend the momey, lol though I dont have the money for High HP build.

 

[red86]

put in what you want or can afford, My 86 has a 5700 chev vortec with a 4L80E trans going into it because at 255 hp and 330 trq stock, and an up to date management system....why not?

 

[fordmike1]

at 255 hp and 330 trq stock, and an up to date management system....why not?

OOOHHH massive HP & TQ there ! ! !
An up to date management system???
Its about time ! ! !
Ford came out with multi port fuel inj. back in 85 in their trucks and then their cars and has never looked back.
GM stuck with that crappy T-body untill 95 in their trucks.
The 96-02 GM Vortec's are a total piece of shat. They are known for cracked heads, blown intake gaskets, spun rod & main bearings, broken plastic lines for their injectors inside the intake, EGR solenoid issues and what about that plastic timing chain cover that you have to replace every time its removed at 50 to 75 dollars a wack. This design of GM junk didnt last long in production for a good reason. I have a 01 Express van that needs a new engine and I have been thru all this just trying to locate a good engine . What a joke.

Going with the Ford is a way better option as there is so many more parts out there available for them.
Compair any parts that you want and then add all of them up and you will see that there is way more options for Fords from mild to wild.

Shitrolet's had it back in the day but at this time Ford owns it. I am sure that with a little more time the GM LS series will take over.

 

[fordmike1]

Will do, just every Lightning lower I found so far was $300 or more. Makeing me seriously think about useing something along the lines of useing a Power+Plus Typhoon lower and upper would have around $350-$400 in both, and I'd imagine beter flow as well. If I can find a lightning lower cheaper that's what'll I'll proabably do though, but spending 50-100 dollars more for beter flow might be worth it.

I would spend the 300 for a factory Ford lightning lower before I spent money on any of that China Pro. products crap. They do not flow as good as the Factory parts and there machining is not that great of quality and you will need to modifiy in some way to make it work as the tolerances are crap. Remember you will get what you pay for here. This is why people sale these things (factory parts)for good money becuse it money well spent. I have installed many of the Professional products parts on Mustangs and have taken many of them right back off becuse of their crappy quality. Every thing from intakes, T-bodys, harmonic dampers and fuel rails. Its buyer beware with their products. Save yourself a headach and some agravation.

 

[Teddyzee]

Sorry, I dropped the ball there...

You got the correct info, though. Lightning/351Gt40 lower will work with a Cobra/Gt40 upper.

Check corral.net for other 351 intake ideas.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Keep the 351 H.O carbed man. Switching over to EFI on it will net no performance gains and with a good carb no driveabilty. Basically alot of headache for nothing.

The 351 H.O was the strongest post emission 351 ever built.

Dont use a SBC, unless you wanna be like every other cookie cutter rig out there.

later,
Dustin

 

[red86]

I told you the know-nothings would come out to play. post#19 proved that

 

[fordmike1]

Fixed it for ya.

I told you the know-nothings would come out to play. post#16 & 18 proved that

 

[RangerRock]

The Chevy vs Ford argument will always be there, lol. Just like the ranger's 3.0L vs 2.9L argument here lol. The biggest pro in my mind for chevy was part interchangeability.

And a note on the CSB 350 it has 187k on it not 87k like i previously thought.

Though fords move to modular engines,in my opinion is going to leave chevy playing catch up.

Really want to use the lightning lower, just have to find one called aound to a few local salavage yards found one that they wanted 400 for. Will keep looking and watching ebay.

Would love to leave a carb on there, would make things so much easier, but with out EFI there will be no inspection for a 92 if I understand the emissions laws correctly around here. Aslong as its efi and the cats are still there, well for this county they have to look like they are there.

Any recomendations for a flat tappet cam? also would a 5.0L ECM control a 5.8L? or will i need a lightning ECM?

 

[Teddyzee]

You always have the option of using a truck EFI manifold. You can use all the Mustang electronics (harness, ECU) but the 5.8 EFI manifold. You can even leave it assembled with sensors and fuel injectors/fuel rails.
Pretty good bet that this stuff is cheaper.

Probably grab all of it from a salvage yard or private sale, but here's a lower:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

and more stuff:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1988...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

 

[RangerRock]

I may end up useing a truck EFI setup to get it running, and keep looking for the lightning lower till i find one in my price range. I'd reall like to stick with the Lightning Gt40 based HO parts but will do what i have to do to get it running.

If you see where my project is at right now still in the tear down phase, It'll be a while till i have the 5.8L in and running. I have nearly all the parts needed for the body , Just now working on collecting the needed parts for the engine.

 

[fordmike1]

Really want to use the lightning lower, just have to find one called aound to a few local salavage yards found one that they wanted 400 for. Will keep looking and watching ebay.

Keep you eye out and you will find one. I just built a 351w stroker for a good friend of mine and he got a Lightning lower off Ebay for 225 plus shipping. You are not needing today so you have some time.

Any recomendations for a flat tappet cam? also would a 5.0L ECM control a 5.8L? or will i need a lightning ECM?

If you are wanting to cam it up ANY at all you will need to go with a mass air flow computer system. Yes a Mustang 5.0l computer system will run your 5.8l.
Here is a great website with a lot of good info for your swap.

http://fordfuelinjection.com/

 

[rusty ol ranger]

I hate to say it because im a Ford guy but GM's 5.3/6.0 Engines kick the living shit out of Fords "Triton" modular family.

I really, really, woulda like to of seen Ford stick with the Windsor Engine family, to see what level they would be at now.

later,
Dustin

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I have never been impressed with the 5.3, the 99-02ish one I drove was a pooch. My 2v 5.4 is still rated at more torque at a lower RPM than the current 5.3, and mine came out 11 years ago, and it has gone up twice since. That is rather unimpressive IMO.

The 6.0/6.2 has kind of been in a class of its own until this year, the new Ford 6.2 is a BEAST. It is rated about the same as the GM 6.2, but it is still an impressive engine.

IMO the only downside to a mod is its size, no way in heck I would trade mine for a 351.