50 for all 4 aint bad, i think its about 30 for the rears alone through lmc. im going to do all 4. i plan on keeping this truck, and while the fronts are still good, chances are they may fail someday, if im pulling the box, im only going to do it once. i may undercoat the bottom of the box too, only time you can really do it is with the bed off. any ideas on how heavy it is? i plan on using a boat winch. i have a cap on it too but i think i'll pull it first rather than try and lift the whole assembly off. ON EDIT: i was looking through the tech forums and saw something about flipping the hanger and using a long shackle. what if you did that but used the stock shackle? would you gain anything? stronger/weaker? might be easier to clean out the crap thet accumulates from the back tires and causes them to rot out? im thinking of coating my replacement parts in bedliner (wow, that stuff is 20 bucks a qt at china-mart!) since the stock brackets are junk, i may as well torch them off, then maybe i can just use a hammer and punch to drive the rivits out. on closer inspection today i found a hole in the side of the r.s. bracket as well. fronts look pretty good, if i cant get the box off i may just worry about the rears, they definetly need attention.