Has anyone used this intake?

[Wicked_Sludge]

not "everyone" does.

most people that do suffer from the placebo effect and/or enjoy the extra noise an aftermarket intake creates.

 

[Jon581]

everyone looking to gain a few more hp's does, everybody i know with a race car has them or do they just not work on stock little 3.0's

 

[Rearanger]

then why does everybody use them if cai do nothing?i put a cone k&n on my truck and noticed a diff not a huge diff but better.

Because "high" flow manufacturers' promotions appeal to people's perception not actual results. A few engines benefit as you can see from published HP increase but I've usually only seen this on kits with custom tubing that improves laminar flow, not reduced filter restriction. You should always match YOUR engine HP with published HP charts then look at Hp/RPM graph to see where gain is achieved. Stock intakes now are all CAI, but cones look and sound "cool", I guess.

 

[Mutant Pony]

Because "high" flow manufacturers' promotions appeal to people's perception not actual results. A few engines benefit as you can see from published HP increase but I've usually only seen this on kits with custom tubing that improves laminar flow, not reduced filter restriction. You should always match YOUR engine HP with published HP charts then look at Hp/RPM graph to see where gain is achieved. Stock intakes now are all CAI, but cones look and sound "cool", I guess.

Exactly. The 3.0 Ranger engine needs help in the intake manifold, not the air cleaner.
The engine can flow everything the stock air cleaner can put out. The exhaust is only slighty lacking, a free flowing muffler will give you everything the motor can push.
The motor needs redesigned combustion chambers and a better upper plenum. The lower needs to be opened up. I will be working on this in the future. Patience.

 

[mixwell]

Because "high" flow manufacturers' promotions appeal to people's perception not actual results. A few engines benefit as you can see from published HP increase but I've usually only seen this on kits with custom tubing that improves laminar flow, not reduced filter restriction. You should always match YOUR engine HP with published HP charts then look at Hp/RPM graph to see where gain is achieved. Stock intakes now are all CAI, but cones look and sound "cool", I guess.

Damn I had no idea that I was actually hurting the HP rather than helping it by just adding a cone and sucking in hot air.. At the time I wanted a cooler sound but had no idea it would hurt the HP. I've had my current cone setup now for about 4 years but reading through here you got me thinking about dropping in a better filter and putting the box back on mine.

 

[Jon581]

i did not buy mine because it looks cool or because it sounds cool i bought it because i want a little more power and the K&N kit is $330 my cone was $40, and has anybody here done a dyno comparison?

 

[Mutant Pony]

A dyno doesn't mean squat if you can't feel the difference. Are you going to pay $400 for something that gives you NO noticable difference? I'm not.
I have a Dyno: A speedo, a tach, and the vehicle weight as a load.

 

[Jon581]

thats why i bought just the cone filter

 

[mixwell]

My question is adding a high flow stock filter like a K&N be worth the $50 ish dollars or would a standard filter be almost just the same output but need changed quicker and cost a lot less ? Since I'm going to change my fuel filter tomorrow I'm thinking about going back to the stock setup but don't want to spend $50 on K&N if it won't be much difference than a stock filter.. Any ideas ??

 

[Mutant Pony]

I recently paid $30 for a K&N panel filter but, only because I ingest a lot of snow. If I were in a warmer climate, I would run an OEM filter.

 

[Wicked_Sludge]

mixwell, if you didnt notice a decrease in performance when you installed the K&N then dont worry about it. its not worth spending MORE money for a change in performance that wont be noticeable.

FYI, the only benefit to running a K&N panel filter in the factory air box (vs a paper filter) is its re-usability and if you suck in a lot of snow like mutant does.

 

[mixwell]

mixwell, if you didnt notice a decrease in performance when you installed the K&N then dont worry about it. its not worth spending MORE money for a change in performance that wont be noticeable.

FYI, the only benefit to running a K&N panel filter in the factory air box (vs a paper filter) is its re-usability and if you suck in a lot of snow like mutant does.

Okay thanks for the info.. For sure I am taking my bee hive shit off tomorrow and swapping back the stock box and filter ^_^.. Snow in Southern California ?? haha thats at least 1 thing I don't need to worry about. I can't believe I had cold air intake and ditched it for a cone that sucks up hot engine compartment air for the last 4 years.. I think I've learned more about my truck in 2 weeks than I've ever know about cars in general.. Knowledge is power !! I wish I could get to the point where I could totally build and engine from scratch and know what the hell im doing. My mom's friend has showed me a few of the old school tips to check certain things..

 

[mixwell]

I recently paid $30 for a K&N panel filter but, only because I ingest a lot of snow. If I were in a warmer climate, I would run an OEM filter.

Sick pony by the way.. Looks like it'd be a blast taking it off road -=)

 

[Rearanger]

My question is adding a high flow stock filter like a K&N be worth the $50 ish dollars or would a standard filter be almost just the same output .. Any ideas ??

http://www.knfilters.com/search/hp_search.aspx

From the K&N web site. Stock replacement NO HP GAIN. Intake kit about 5hp but at 4721rpm, now that's useful.

 

[mixwell]

Thanks for the link. I just purchased a paper filter and changed my air and fuel filter. Truck is a little quieter and seeing as how I just changed the head I don't want to get the RPMs up too high for a bit but I wana see if I can tell a diff. Ended up taking a mini fuel shower also even tho I releived all the pressure.. haha.