factory Block parts C80E vrs E08E

[Angie]

Going to be running parts from 2 different motors on this new build.
C80E - 6015A < 68 302 Fairlane
E08E - D3C < 80 302 Mustang (??)

Trying to find info on the web about internal parts in these motors.

Can any one help me locate sites that break down the factory parts specs?

IE which rods are stronger if I was to use the original rods with Probe Pistons?

this type of info is what i am looking for.


main block that i will be building up is the 68. the 80's one is non-roller
thanks

 

[PetesPonies]

There isn't a lot of difference, but block wise the '68 is a tad better. If you are sure the other is an '80, then it would be a 2 piece as well. There were no 302s in 1980 Mustangs. They were in '79, but '80 and '81 had a 255 option only. Then in '82 the 302 was again available in a Mustang but it was an H.O. version. I can tell you anything you need to know about these 302s. So get specific, you can't scare me

 

[Angie]

hi pete, thanks for reply. I am not 100% sure what the 80's block is out of. I grabbed it about 4 years back from a pick'n'pull along with the C6 that was attatched to it. it was in a 84 Ranger and when I bartered the price for the set, one of the counter guys let me know that the truck was from his cousin and they put a mustang motor into it. I trusted his word for I was pretty regular there and knew me from past visits. I grabbed the set for a 66Bronco that I was going to build but sold it last fall...

now needing another project found the 83.... so that brings us up to date ...

The block numbers are hard to read on it so can't say for 100%. I do know that it does not have roller lifters nor are there any journals for rollers. as for HO is there a sure fire way to tell? (this motor is red looks factory red, if that helps any) they took off the intake and carb before they dropped the donar truck at the junk yard. I did make sure I took the motor mounts with the motor so that will help with dropping it into this new project.

I am stripping down both of these motors at the same time to check out all the internals, and to run numbers of what is in them,

cheers

 

[PetesPonies]

You have a 255 , which is junk. It probably did come from a Mustang in 1980 . . . . . its junk. 302 blocks were D9s until 1985 when the E5 block was produced, which was the roller block. So seriously, the E0 block is totally worthless. But, you have the C8, which is the one you want to build.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

the E0 block is totally worthless.

No, $200/ton last I heard.

 

[Angie]

hey pete thanks for the info....

on the 255 did a 302 head fit and breath properly? were the 255 internals on an island to themselves?

before today I had never heard of a 255... must have been one of Ford's finest hours.... LOL

cheers

 

[Twister]

That E08E is wrong, it would have a letter for the 3rd digit. Pete, are you saying an E0 block would only be a 255?

Sent from, wait how did this get here?

 

[Angie]

That E08E is wrong, it would have a letter for the 3rd digit. Pete, are you saying an E0 block would only be a 255?

I have to agree with pete.... googled the E08E and came up with blocks ... then googled E0BE incase I read it wrong and found that that is casting numbers for straight 6 heads from 80-83



http://www.sixplusperformance.com/ford6castingindex.html

cheers

 

[Twister]

That E08E is wrong, it would have a letter for the 3rd digit. Pete, are you saying an E0 block would only be a 255?

I have to agree with pete.... googled the E08E and came up with blocks ... then googled E0BE incase I read it wrong and found that that is casting numbers for straight 6 heads from 80-83



http://www.sixplusperformance.com/ford6castingindex.html

cheers

http://www.hammar.dyndns.org/~djhamma/partnumb.htm

Was wondering because I have a 302 with the code E0AE-DC3.

Sent from, wait how did this get here?

 

[Angie]

Was wondering because I have a 302 with the code E0AE-DC3.



I just spent the last hour reading about this.... and from what i could figure you have about a 70/30% of being a 302 block (non roller). some people say it is from a truck while others say ford car.... generic off the shelf block from the looks of it. With that casting number it could have been used in any application from 1980-1984.

I could also be 100% wrong from all i read.... gotta love the net LOL

mine looks more and more like 255 ... i will know more when i pull the crank off and get 1 of the pistons out and measure it. under 4.0 and it is 255. could measure the top of the piston i guess also...LOL

cheers

 

[PetesPonies]

Trust me, the E0 is a 255. As I stated, the D9 was the block used until the E5 came out that was the roller 302 block. The 255 is an island all of itself. It was a horrible engine that was available for two years only. It did not accomplish any of the things Ford had hoped it would.
The crank as the same stroke as a 302, but don't use a used crank if you can help it . . meaning swap for one ground and ready to go with new bearings. The rods are the same as a 302 also. Regardless of which engine you get the rods from, put better bolts in them and have them resized. The 255 heads and block . . turn it in for scrap.
I'll add to this that many people have been fooled by the 255, because many don't even know of their existence and figure 302s were all that was used in Mustangs . . not in '80 and '81. Now you are smarter

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Was wondering because I have a 302 with the code E0AE-DC3.

Have you ever had your intake off? 255's had oval intake ports while 302's were more rectangular. If not is there any part numbers on your intake? Neither it or the heads interchange with a 302.

Since you know it is a good runner and you already have it I wouldn't be worried about running it either way until you find something else if you don't like it. I don't think any of the real swap stuff would not interchange.

 

[PetesPonies]

Twister . . you know how I eluded to the fact that many think they have 302s, but in turn have 255s?? Sorry to say . . .

 

[Angie]

thanks pete ... sounds like i have another engine to take to the iron guys.... or use it for an anchor.

on the bright side, the motor mounts will work for the ranger

whats the story with the rear oil pan sumps? probably worth keeping for someone might need it one day.
here's a pic before the tear down. i will take some detailed pics of the rest of the tear down to help other compare engines.

 

[Twister]

Trust me, the E0 is a 255. As I stated, the D9 was the block used until the E5 came out that was the roller 302 block. The 255 is an island all of itself. It was a horrible engine that was available for two years only. It did not accomplish any of the things Ford had hoped it would.
The crank as the same stroke as a 302, but don't use a used crank if you can help it . . meaning swap for one ground and ready to go with new bearings. The rods are the same as a 302 also. Regardless of which engine you get the rods from, put better bolts in them and have them resized. The 255 heads and block . . turn it in for scrap.
I'll add to this that many people have been fooled by the 255, because many don't even know of their existence and figure 302s were all that was used in Mustangs . . not in '80 and '81. Now you are smarter

Not saying your wrong because you seem to have a wealth a knowledge, but everywhere i read says its a 302, you are only the 2nd place i have heard it might be a 255 and the other site wasn't even sure. Do you know much about the vin number on the back of the motor. Mine Reads DHxxxxxx. All i can find is that its the last 8 of the vin of the car. If so it says it is from 83, and they didnt have the 255 in 83 did they?

Not telling you you are wrong on any account, just seems like a lot of the info for these just inst there.

Have you ever had your intake off? 255's had oval intake ports while 302's were more rectangular. If not is there any part numbers on your intake? Neither it or the heads interchange with a 302.

Since you know it is a good runner and you already have it I wouldn't be worried about running it either way until you find something else if you don't like it. I don't think any of the real swap stuff would not interchange.

I have not because i dont wanna take the dizzy out and it seems to be sealed good. I have been reading up on the 255, with the edelbrock intake it has on it, their site says it wont fit a 255 at all. So i dont know how it would be used on the engine unless the guy before my friend super fubbared it somehow.

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