emmission controls, why not motorcycles too?

[85_Ranger4x4]

So what about mud tires? I used to only have a thrush glasspack on my Ranger and at about 45mph my Dunlops would drown out my exhaust at any RPM. I still wouldn't consider them loud myself, but it is no small feat to drown out that kind of exhaust.

Or are we only chasing exhausts?

 

[naford]

Lets think about this. I'm driving down the highway minding my own bussiness. Do I have the window rolled down? No I think not. Why you might ask! Simple I don't like the sound of some A@$ on a motorcycle with staight pipes. You can try to justify it any way you want but it is not about safety. It's about look at me. I'm so cool. I can disturb your life because I'm an idiot. I'd love to run over some jacka@$ on a motorcycle. It would make me happy to make an organ donor out of them. If I seem cruel It's becaue I live 2 houses away from the park district and I hear those insecure idiots every weekend. How do you justify distrubing me when I'm in the house? Oh thats right the house might move and run some biker over. How would you like it if I came over to your house without mufflers on my car at 2 in the morning just because I want to make sure you know I'm coming! After all why should you be aloud to sleep.

 

[Jason]

dude, seriously
just because sport bike guys think loud pipes are bad, doesnt mean there right
for all

guys around here(and girls) love loud pipes, because you have allot of car drivers with their heads in a certan crack that love to pull out in front of bikes

yes , it can get annoying to people they pass, but deal with it, and youre attentoin went to the bike, didnt it.
and some guys do this simply to sound like a big bad biker and show off their 30,000 bucks in chrome.
others run them for the attenton of drivers

yes they do help out, yes they do annoy
ans yes , my family, friends and myself will continue to run loud pipes
because they do save lives
(and i have confirmed this in the opinion of sevral EMTs)

and WTF is a 45 pound bike, a freakin huffy
screw croth rockets, too easy to get stupid and killed

Sorry, it's a typo, I am not a typist. 485 lb bike.

If it's so easy to get stupid and killed on a "crotch rocket" why am I here? I have over 250k miles on sport bikes and I don't even have so much as a bruise or scar from riding. I also have more than just sport bikes.

Here is one bike.

Here is the other.

Since you would rather get on a rant about a typo than answer the question about spring rates, can you explain how a bunch of noise shooting rearward out of a bike makes it safer in front of one?

 

[lil red]

hey, that was more of a "crotch rockets arent for me" rant
i know too many people that have been almost killed on them
thats why i couldnt ride one for a long time

too much power , too quickly for me

and iv polled the clubs
and they all agree
plus, the lack of mufflers or a diffrent muffler doesnt chnge the emissions, just the sound level,

btw, thats what i thought , the typo
and honestly, i dont know , but i will if i get the job iv just applied for
building bikes just like the one youve got there(a kawi, sazuki, and polaris dealership)
and, nice bikes
i love streetfighters, but my parents would kill me before the bike has a chanse to

 

[Kdawg532]

God if they pass an emission law for motorcycles what "FREEDOM" will we lose next??
will we have to put things on our mouths that make it so when we exhale we dont emit so much carbon dioxide ??????
if you look everyday we are losing more and more of our everyday freedoms, like we cant smoke in public now ???? i dont smoke but WTF???
sorry for the rant but stuff like this pisses me off

 

[V8 Level II]

God if they pass an emission law for motorcycles what "FREEDOM" will we lose next??

Motorcycles have been required to meet emission standards since the late 70's.

 

[lil red]

which they do
iv seen bikes with straight pipes pass the emissions in nj

 

[crbnunit]

Lets look at this from a different angle. Fatigue. Long rides on loud motorcycles are very fatiguing (says me with 10's of thoulsand of hours of seat time). When you become fatigued, your reaction times become longer and your attention span becomes shorter... Very deadly conditions in a sport that requires razor sharp reactions and situational awareness. Try to justify your cry for attention anyway you want but you know loud exhaust does nothing for safety. You never hear a loud vehicle until it has already gone by. By then, the danger to the bike has passed. How do you justify it again? All you are doing is annoying others and damaging our sport. Grow up. Kdawg is correct. Unless we police ourselves, there will be laws passed. That will be bad for all of us.

 

[Jason]

Lets look at this from a different angle. Fatigue. Long rides on loud motorcycles are very fatiguing (says me with 10's of thoulsand of hours of seat time). When you become fatigued, your reaction times become longer and your attention span becomes shorter... Very deadly conditions in a sport that requires razor sharp reactions and situational awareness. Try to justify your cry for attention anyway you want but you know loud exhaust does nothing for safety. You never hear a loud vehicle until it has already gone by. By then, the danger to the bike has passed. How do you justify it again? All you are doing is annoying others and damaging our sport. Grow up. Kdawg is correct. Unless we police ourselves, there will be laws passed. That will be bad for all of us.

10's of thousands of hours seat time?!!? In Anchorage? What do you do, run it in the heated garage? :lol:

 

[red85]

I have over 250k miles on sport bikes and I don't even have so much as a bruise or scar from riding.

You better touch wood when you say stuff like that! Last time I said something like that, I was nearly killed by a falling C6!

 

[Jason]

You better touch wood when you say stuff like that! Last time I said something like that, I was nearly killed by a falling C6!

I have been saying this since it was "I have over 100k miles on sportbikes...". I truly believe it is skill and attention that deliver us motorcyclists from evil. If it was a matter of chance, I would be dead by now. I do not ride slow. I take turns hanging off with the knee and toes sliders grinding into powder. My GPS routinely shows a top acquired speed over 130mph. It can't just be luck folks.

Learn the skills and screw the loud pipes. My Bandit has a full Yoshimura system that is pretty loud when you get on it (bike is track and street prepped) and it does no good. Just be alert, know your surroundings, learn to properly utilize countersteering and practice panic braking from any speed you think you may drive at.

 

[crbnunit]

10's of thousands of hours seat time?!!? In Anchorage? What do you do, run it in the heated garage? :lol:

I've only lived here for 12 years or so and piloted dirtbikes most of that time (summers). There are lots of street bikes here but the roads are just not good enough to go fast on and the seasons are to short so I retired from the street. I have ridden since I could walk. My parents dated on a motorcycle. Hell, there was a time I swore I'd never own a car! I have road raced, street raced, raced enduro, cross country and motocross. You are exactly right when you say it is skill that will keep you alive and not noise. Situational awareness is what fighter pilots call it. Know where you are, what the conditions are, have an escape route planned, expect that bimbo on the phone to do something stupid. No amount of noise, flashy paint or flashing lights will keep you alive. You must ride paranoid at all times and PAY ATTENTION!

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I do not ride slow. I take turns hanging off with the knee and toes sliders grinding into powder. My GPS routinely shows a top acquired speed over 130mph. It can't just be luck folks.

You drive 130mph and are worried about annoying people up with a loud exhaust?

 

[Jason]

You drive 130mph and are worried about annoying people up with a loud exhaust?

There is a time and a place. I do track riding and head into the boonies where there are no houses or crossroads often.

FYI- A track prepped 1277cc engine is loud but it has nothing to do with safety. It's that extra 25 ponies that I wanted.

 

[philzilla]

Although i have to admit i disliked street bikers when i first started driving but now i can understand that they have a hard enough time on the road. I always pull out of there way on the freeway when there driving through cars.There out there all by themselves and it is everyones job to watch your surroundings, and i wouldn't want the loss of a life on my conconse(how ever you spell it) i ride dirt bikes myself