double standards....

[Brownie Mobile]

The rest of the world would make the same assumption that we do, since a muslim man died in our country America is responsible, middle eastern people crashed planes into our buildings and all middle eastern people are responsible. In fact we believed so strongly in this that we invaded a country that had nothing to do with the men that crashed into our towers. We're just as bad as "them" really. Imagine this your strolling in the park the guy in front of you spills coffee on a guys favorite suit while he was walking, instead of retaliating against the coffee spiller he comes and punches you in the face, makes no sense at all, why did we do that? It's because we had to punch somebody or suffer a loss of face, can't be looking like wimps now.....

 

[pillen140]

so the taliban had nothing to do with it? they're not over there killing people tht had nothing to do with it. iraq maybe if that's what you're tling about, but that's a whole other story.

 

[jackman454]

Lets remember, not all Islamic people are terrorists.

 

[88_Eddie]

our own government, our society and the media has been the downfall of both of these wars. all the fawking libs and hippies in this country want us to go get the enemy, but not hurt anyone whilst doing it. you cant win a war with both hands tied around your back. we, the americans, have imposed all these rules of war and geneva conventions to follow, but our enemy is exempt from them. everybody is so worried about being PC in a WAR.

how about this, let's play a game of basketball, but your team isnt allowed to use your hands or run. my team can run, jump, travel, dribble, do whatever we want. who do you think is gonna win that game?

we have to be ruthless, which is what we started out doing in afghanistan in the months after 9/11. had we continued doing so, we would have been gone from afghanistan years ago.

 

[88_Eddie]

Lets remember, not all Islamic people are terrorists.

no, they arent. but there's no way to distinguish a muslim from a radical muslim. given the radical muslims track record, i'm not going to give anyone the benefit of the doubt. i'm not saying i'm going to shoot any muslim i see or call them names because of their religion. it's not without reason that we're wary of muslims, they're the ones that decided to kill 3000 innocent civilans and videotape themselves cutting off peoples heads.

 

[armadillon]

The rest of the world would make the same assumption that we do, since a muslim man died in our country America is responsible, middle eastern people crashed planes into our buildings and all middle eastern people are responsible. In fact we believed so strongly in this that we invaded a country that had nothing to do with the men that crashed into our towers. We're just as bad as "them" really. Imagine this your strolling in the park the guy in front of you purposely spills coffee on a guys favorite suit while he was walking, instead of retaliating against the coffee spiller he comes and punches you in the face, makes no sense at all, why did we do that? It's because we had to punch somebody or suffer a loss of face, can't be looking like wimps now.....

I certainly agree with this once it's corrected.

But also, 3000 people dying is NOT coffee. In the atmosphere of world politics, it is a different ballgame. Finding those responsible might be up there in the priorities, but PREVENTING future occurrences is incredibly difficult!

Answer these questions:

If we didn't take any measures after 9/11, would it be logical to assume a like incident would occur again?

If the home country of the the militant base will not assist in preventing future incidents, how do we proceed?

History seems to prove that if you don't protect what is yours, it gets taken. Yes, it sucks. It would be nice to coexist.
Should we argue with history?

If the militants used proper channels to voice disapproval, would we coexist?

The response to the bumper sticker coexist works like this: we are doing our best to coexist. There are some excellent reasons we are overseas, but there are also some bad.

Do the ends justify the means?

And my final question:

If you agree with the ends, are there any other options to our current means?

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

It was sad on the news last night they had normal people holding signs that the action doesn't represent them, their city or their country as a whole. It was sad to me that they assumed we would hold the whole country liable for the actions of a few.

Some terror group is trying to claim responsiblity.

 

[88_Eddie]

It was sad on the news last night they had normal people holding signs that the action doesn't represent them, their city or their country as a whole. It was sad to me that they assumed we would hold the whole country liable for the actions of a few.

Some terror group is trying to claim responsiblity.

i agree. it would really tick me off if there were a group of christians running around killing people in the name of our religion. i, or we, have more sense than to hold an entire country accountable for the actions of a few. just goes to show how close minded the radicals are about their religion. which is stupid, because shouldnt religion teach tolerance to other cultures and religions?

 

[CreepyCrawler]

i dont doubt the elite military forces at all...theres too many political restraints involved with the military though for anything to get done. it took over 20+ years to execute saddam and it took about the same time for osama.

 

[CreepyCrawler]

if there are boundaries ending American jurisdiction in another country when a terrorist attack is brought onto American citizens in a foreign country (embassy's and within the general population)...that my friends is bs.

 

[armadillon]

which is stupid, because shouldnt religion teach tolerance to other cultures and religions?

Not exactly. In the case of Christianity, Old Testament isn't all that helpful in this regard. The New Testament isn't all that tolerant of other faiths either.

Simply an ounce of humanity should teach it. Either that or Kindergarten. Obviously a large group of people slept in during the Golden Rule class.

 

[armadillon]

if there are boundaries ending American jurisdiction in another country when a terrorist attack is brought onto American citizens in a foreign country (embassy's and within the general population)...that my friends is bs.

Vice versa? Would we really want another nation coming into ours to exact judgement/punishment/justice?

Believe me, I'm angry too, but unfortunately there's...social strictures. EDIT: "etiquette" was the word I was looking for at the end. Tip of the tongue and all. Hate it when that happens.

 

[88_Eddie]

Not exactly. In the case of Christianity, Old Testament isn't all that helpful in this regard. The New Testament isn't all that tolerant of other faiths either.

Simply an ounce of humanity should teach it. Either that or Kindergarten. Obviously a large group of people slept in during the Golden Rule class.

very true....but the bible has been translated and rewritten so many times, who knows what it really said. i believe the bible is open to my interpretation of what it says. if you dont agree with my interpretation, fine-i dont care, i not going to kill you over it.

i do agree with what you said, an ounce of humanity should teach it

 

[robertc1024]

I see the whole incident (the Libya embassy) as a great propaganda campaign orchestrated by the Taliban. They spread the word that the Americans were all watching a movie which denegrated their religion and Muhammed - in fact, it was only shown once in LA to a very few people. The trailer wasn't exactly a youtube smash hit. The muslim populace got riled up, Taliban hides in them and shoots off a few RPG's.

Mission accomplished. It isn't hard to label ALL of the Taliban as muslim extremests - and they are constantly attacking the US or it's assets as hard as they can.

/end conspiricy theory/

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I see the whole incident (the Libya embassy) as a great propaganda campaign orchestrated by the Taliban. They spread the word that the Americans were all watching a movie which denegrated their religion and Muhammed - in fact, it was only shown once in LA to a very few people. The trailer wasn't exactly a youtube smash hit. The muslim populace got riled up, Taliban hides in them and shoots off a few RPG's.

Mission accomplished. It isn't hard to label ALL of the Taliban as muslim extremests - and they are constantly attacking the US or it's assets as hard as they can.

/end conspiricy theory/

How did such a POS movie even end up over there? How many US movies make it over there for them to even see?