Any new firearm purchases?

[JoshT]

I haven't seen it for awhile but Lucas gun oil is really good stuff too.

Check the auto parts store. I often see it there when wondering around, usually somewhere up near the registers.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Check the auto parts store. I often see it there when wondering around, usually somewhere up near the registers.

That is where i used to see it lol.

 

[Gunfighter97]

On the note of a gun you use often, as in train with (one you know you'll wear out), use new grease for aplications that demand it, but otherwise run your used motor oil through an old sock and use it. It's going to work just as well as any gun lube and one oil change is a lifetime supply for most people.

 

[JoshT]

one you know you'll wear out

Will never happen.

Even if it could... I would rather use fresh gun oil formulated for the purpose, or even fresh motor oil for that matter, than reuse contaminated motor oil for that purpose. The contaminates in used motor oil are so small that they are going to pass right through a sock. Even if you were to run it through an actual oil filter it would be too dirty for me to consider using it for that purpose. There's a reason the are replacing it in the engine. Sure most firearms are built to much looser tolerances, but still not going to do it.

 

[Gunfighter97]

Will never happen.

Even if it could... I would rather use fresh gun oil formulated for the purpose, or even fresh motor oil for that matter, than reuse contaminated motor oil for that purpose. The contaminates in used motor oil are so small that they are going to pass right through a sock. Even if you were to run it through an actual oil filter it would be too dirty for me to consider using it for that purpose. There's a reason the are replacing it in the engine. Sure most firearms are built to much looser tolerances, but still not going to do it.

It absolutely does happen, just not for shooters who don't use their guns. My current main AR is in its second barrel, third bolt and fifth cam pin. Sock is just to pull any large metal particulate or sludge out. It works just fine and non detergent oils (or formerly detergent oils) like used motor oil and kerosene are used regularly by most gunsmiths for a variety of different things. Firearms arent going to put nearly as much pressure on said oil, or get said oil to nearly as high a temps as inside of an engine. Generally speaking, guns deal with the same carbon contaminants that are already in the oil and generate those contaminants in a lot higher concentration than an engine does in its crank case through normal use. The only practical difference anyone will ever see with used motor oil is that it doesn't have the same rust inhibbiting properties that gun oil does, which for someone who uses their gun like they do a car, doesn't matter because it gets cleaned out and replaced regularly. As far as tolerances go, depends on what part of what design as to how tight or loose they are. For guns worth training with, they're generally produced tolleranced for the carbon build up common to firearms which is way filthier than the inside of any healthy engine.

My first AR barrel went roughly 15k of straight tula btw its all in the maintenance schedule.

 

[JoshT]

It absolutely does happen, just not for shooters who don't ABuse their guns.

FIFY

Most normal shooters, even those that train/practice with them regularly, will never wear out a gun. Those of us that own many and like to rotate through them, even less likely.

That is wear out a gun, not break a gun. Breakage can happen at any time and any round count.

Also note that I said normal shooters. That does not include people who like to mag dump. That does not include people that use their arms professionally. That does not include people that shoot their guns competitively. That probably doesn't include people that shoot the cheapest and dirtiest ammunition possible, which likely contributes greatly to the wear and tear of their firearm (although that could really be considered abuse in itself).

I couldn't give a crap about what can be done, or what you do, regarding gun lubrication. I said I'm not going to do it. Proper gun lubricants are cheap enough that buying it is a non issue, and your stated wear and tear record does not appear to be supporting your claims.

I'm not going to get into openly judging your choices. Just accept that we're different type of shooters and gun owners, but don't assume that it makes me any less of one than you are.

 

[Gunfighter97]

FIFY

Most normal shooters, even those that train/practice with them regularly, will never wear out a gun. Those of us that own many and like to rotate through them, even less likely.

That is wear out a gun, not break a gun. Breakage can happen at any time and any round count.

Also note that I said normal shooters. That does not include people who like to mag dump. That does not include people that use their arms professionally. That does not include people that shoot their guns competitively. That probably doesn't include people that shoot the cheapest and dirtiest ammunition possible, which likely contributes greatly to the wear and tear of their firearm.

I couldn't give a crap about what can be done, or what you do, regarding gun lubrication. I said I'm not going to do it. Proper gun lubricants are cheap enough that buying it is a non issue.

I'm not going to get into openly judging your choices. Just accept that we're different type of shooters and gun owners, but don't assume that it makes me any less of one than you are.

Look, I don't even know when to start with that, but you do you friend. Ive been in the firearms industry long enough to know when people balk and talk over things their obviously cluless about. Just know that if you actually use a particular gun regularly and think it will never wear out, physics disagrees with you. My job wouldn't exist if that weren't true.

By the way, nobody said following my advice was a requirement, and fwiw you weren't the one who asked for it. You responded with a claim that was very obviously uneducated, and all I did was counter it with logic backed by experience. Competition, duty aplications, (such as the case of who did ask for my advice) and using cheaper ammunition with a proper maintenance schedule, etc is not abuse. Overheating, not following an appropriate or edjucated maintenance schedule, storing firearms in poor conditions, storing wood stocked firearms muzzle up, getting them back out and using them with the old dried out lube, etc, is abuse. Most shooters have no idea how to properly clean the bores of their firearms, let alone use a chamber brush or disassemble the action. My advice was not for most shooters, so I'm not sure why you seem upset, don't expect me to tollerate it though, I was asked for my experience.