'95 doesn't want to start immediately after shut-off

[red97xj]

I am not really familiar with rangers specifically, but does anyone think maybe the fuel pump is starting to go out? Where is the fuel pump on that year ranger... fuel rail or in the tank (I assume tank)? Is there anyway to "test" the fuel pump.

I also agree that push starting would not help test the starter, solenoid, etc, because the OP says it turns over fine and that is not an issue.

What else is common on this year ranger to go wrong/out?

Thanks guys, I think together we can get navets (OP) fixed up.

 

[sonicvalley]

That might be something to look into regarding the fuel pump. I asked my dealer mechanic friend the question and he thought (without more info) that it might be the bearings seizing in the fuel pump and then after it cools down they loosen up.

 

[red97xj]

That might be something to look into regarding the fuel pump. I asked my dealer mechanic friend the question and he thought (without more info) that it might be the bearings seizing in the fuel pump and then after it cools down they loosen up.

Anyone know how to "check" a pump? Where is it at on a ranger? How much are they?

 

[binks0678]

first off modelageek you are a complete moron and an embarassment to this site. your arguing with people blackwidow who clearly have more knowledge of these trucks. GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC. now onto the question. It sounds like it could be a relay or a pump starting to go bad. for red97xj you can use a voltmeter to make sure the pumps are getting power when you turn it over. there is a low pressure intank pump 40 bucks new on ebay, and there is a high pressure in line pump on the drivers side frame rail by the trans its about 65 new on ebay.

now i have a question of my own...is there 2 seperate relays one for the in tank and one for the in line pump? my in tank is working but my in line is not kicking on?

 

[modelageek]

Copy that. You must admit this talking tough in a forum is silly.I think Blackwidow and I settled are differances. Time for you to move forward also noob

 

[binks0678]

alright im going to just assume that your just a 16 year old know it all kid and ill move on as well. hows the saying go dont let an idiot bring you down to his level cuz he will beat you from experience.
anyway, another thing is when the truck wont start can you turn the key on but not start the truck and hear the fuel pump whine? the in tank pump should whine fairly audibly. if it does not kick the tank and try it again. my truck use to have a very similar problem and if i jumped on the rear bumper it would slosh fuel around and make the pump kick on. just an idea. if it does those things then you would know a pump is starting to fail.

 

[modelageek]

actually, you insulted me and i apologized.

but anyway, lets get back on topic everyone.

we need to OP to report bck and tells us more info before we can assume nything.

For the record i am a 49 year male Blackwidow , what actually happened is that I threw out a few questions to get the op thinking and to access his knowledge base. I asked him if he tried to pop start it. I did not say try and pop start it. You then jumped in and started correcting me. I have my own way of trying to figure out if the OP is sincere or a post whore. I just wanted to try and get him to give more info and and to see what he knew( I must admit it was a mistake and I will not do that again.). I thought the protocol on these forums was that you did not attack what you might have thought someone said. I thought you just threw out your suggestions and let the OP decide.........it will not happen again........and I thought it was over until the noob bink came along...

 

[modelageek]

when it does not start do you have spark?.......is it a standard........will it pop start?

this is what started this whole argument . I think I am going to move on.......it i not that important........

 

[modelageek]

As i think about it I am going to take full responsibility for this. I apologize for any confusion . I will do my best so this situation will not happen again.

 

[Bryan22]

think you guys scared the OP off. haha.

 

[modelageek]

I think the OP was a post whore( I have my own definition of what this is) and not sincere about trying to solve his issue....which is why i did not give him much respect in the first place.......... remember no good dead goes unpunished

 

[red97xj]

I think the OP was a post whore( I have my own definition of what this is) and not sincere about trying to solve his issue....which is why i did not give him much respect in the first place.......... remember no good dead goes unpunished

Um, NO, he is not a post whore, and he is sincere. He is however, not a mechanic, nor does he claim to be one. He is a friend of mine. I am not on these forums (as you can see by my post). He said he like these forums, and I told him forums are great, just post up and they will surely help you out.

I am hoping someone still has some good advice... I am not mechanic either, but can build a car from scratch (not bragging, but yes I have done this). I am still leaning towards a tired/worn fuel pump.

Anyone else have some thoughts?

Thanks in advance guys for your help!

 

[Bryan22]

id start by checking/cleaning all the grounds, and then going through the wiring harness to look for burnt or pinched sections of wire.

also, next time the truck is running, wiggle the keys and see if it tries to die. could be the ignition taking a crap. in any case sounds like an electrical problem since the truck runs fine when you get it running. if it were fuel it would give you problems while running.

-edit- just re-read your post. and i'm really suspecting a loose ground somewhere, im guessing the slamming of the hood jarred something just enough to make contact again and vroom. you get the picture. Always start with the free and always start with the simple.

also as far as the arguing is concerned.... I was not born knowing how to fix my own crap, and neither was anyone else. No one on this site became an expert over night. it takes time and a patient teacher, or group of educated individuals (thanks TRS! ) to learn and understand what you are doing. don't give up and next time you run into a problem like this you will have much more experience to help you make an educated guess and start troubleshooting! good luck with this, and most of all try to have fun! -edit-

p.s. sorry for rambling.

 

[modelageek]

red97/navets....... My bad. Through the mini soap opera I failed to see your posts. In the past when I saw someone post an issue and they did not take the time to create a detailed profile of the truck including location I assumed they were not sincere(my old definition of a post whore) in trying to solve there issue. I no longer assume that. thanks for helping me understand how to look at the issue!

 

[modelageek]

first off modelageek you are a complete moron and an embarassment to this site. your arguing with people blackwidow who clearly have more knowledge of these trucks. GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC. now onto the question. It sounds like it could be a relay or a pump starting to go bad. for red97xj you can use a voltmeter to make sure the pumps are getting power when you turn it over. there is a low pressure intank pump 40 bucks new on ebay, and there is a high pressure in line pump on the drivers side frame rail by the trans its about 65 new on ebay.

now i have a question of my own...is there 2 seperate relays one for the in tank and one for the in line pump? my in tank is working but my in line is not kicking on?

Bink ....To show you I am not an ignorant know it all. I am someone willing to learn and grow. I did not know that the 1995 2.3 had 2 fuel pumps. I thought the 95 had 1 pump in the tank that ran at about 40psi, had the fuel pump regulator on the fuel rail and a return line to the tank. I thought that in 98(same as my 99)they maintained the 1 pump in the tank, increased the fuel pressure to about 60 ,moved the fuel pressure regulator to the tank, removed the return line and installed a fuel pressure damper on the fuel rail. Bink thanks for educating mean. I believe in the past I might not have given out the best advice about the 1995 fuel system by never suggesting to check the 2nd pump.