4d55 turbo diesel info

[Snoranger]

You sure thats a FM-145? If I had to guess I'd say its a km-132 from the D50.

 

[mason_411]

yeah it actually is the km132 i just asked him which the tranny came out of. appartently the ranger was 2wd. like i said i dont know much on the spacifics of these haha he found um in a junk yard and snagged um up cause they were cool. it is 3" shorter than the m5od so that lead me to think it was a 145. they do share the same clutch and slave s the 145's right?

 

[Snoranger]

yeah it actually is the km132 i just asked him which the tranny came out of. appartently the ranger was 2wd. like i said i dont know much on the spacifics of these haha he found um in a junk yard and snagged um up cause they were cool. it is 3" shorter than the m5od so that lead me to think it was a 145. they do share the same clutch and slave s the 145's right?

Thats a good question.

 

[mason_411]

i suppose it actually doesnt matter... i found clutch slave and all that good stuff for both motors. rockauto actually has quite a bit of parts for these things. i need to find a full wiring diagram for sure though haha the wiring is gunna be a biotch. other than that its just making one motor run good (swaping parts around, new gaskets, glow plugs, maybe bearings, clean it, paint it) ,flush the tranny out, mount it in, wiring (which will be the hardest by far), exhaust, and order some drive shafts. in that very order.

 

[Snoranger]

It's a mechanically injected diesel, there will very little wiring.


I have have to ask... Why is everything so funny??
You type haha atleast once or twice in every post.

 

[mason_411]

i have the harness there is more to it than you may think. The hard part is going to be matching it to the existing comp in the truck. and nothing is so funny. its just a habit from texting and shit and everything sounds so serious without it. but i have to ask why does it matter? this isnt a thread on the proper placement of "ha's" haha just dont worry about it. if it annoys you then im sorry, ignore it.

 

[ericlerouge]

Oh man! you must be thrilled! .

my last addition was the 83 ram 50 fsm, 30$ off fleabay!

I'll be wrenching sooonn, nice weather is slowly coming, maybe in a couple of weeks

 

[mason_411]

Thats sweet dude!! i need to get a fsm... unless you decide you want to scan me some pages of that bad boy???

hell yeah man im stoked!!

im already wrenching! i have all the accessories off of the blown up one and i opened her up... there is 3 welded rocker arms and 2 welded rods... its pretty toasted haha

i might part that one out after i get everything i want off of if youre interested in anything?

but this weekend i plan on putting all accessories on the running one and making her shine. then ill tear it all back down and start ordering any internals it needs. i know ill need glow plugs, gaskets, all 4 belts, probably injectors, and i might do bearings and rings and have the heads remaned... but idk that gets pricy for me... and if i go that far i might as well get pistons and the whole 9 yards too and thats real expensive soooo i dont know yet. what do you think? im worried about getting it in and then something going wrong and having to drive the spare truck for a month waiting on parts... lets just say our spare truck is a tad haggard

 

[Oh2Ranger]

Nice that you got the two motors, How long have they been sitting?

I've been trying to organize my pictures of my project but unfortunately my stupid macbook's screen blew and I'm going to have to either replace it or find a way to get in and get my pictures off to my PC.

I'd advise not getting too heavily invested too quickly, I'd start by pulling the head, inspecting the cylinders for anything unusual, look at the bottom of the had, and slap new gaskets and belts all around. (Oil pan, Head, Valve.. etc). It can get costly very quick. I'd slap some belts on it get it timed up and get it running well. Take it from there, determine if it is something worth sinking your teeth into or not. I really wish I could start a thread of my own now, but I really need to get the pictures first.

This is going in your 94 right? Because that is the same year I'm swapping the one I've been working on into. I'd also hang on to your spare motor at least in the short term, then part it out after knowing you have all that you need.

I also want to put you at ease with wiring. It sounds like your pretty nervous about the difficulty. Like snoranger said, there isn't much too it. I actually found it easier to make my own harness and integrate it with the stock harness. Much of it you don't need, and can be removed. Keeping the bits and pieces that run the lights, or the reverse light wires for the trans.. etc need to stay. You need one wire to the injection pump, and a wire to engage the starter. Thats it. EASY! Just use proper relays and fuses and you will be golden.

 

[mason_411]

yeah im excited he threw in the other for free. theyve been sitting for i wanna say 2 ish years? including junkyard time.

thats what my paps was saying... get one running and dont replace anything that doesnt go out. ill do belts and gaskets for sure check out the head, maybe have it remaned and new rings depending on wear. but i wasnt gunna part out the spare for a while, until i was confident everything ran smooth. im also figuring on keeping my 4.0 drive train incase the worst happens.

yeah it is going in my 94, im fiding a lot of the work is going to need to be done with the motor in the bay though (wiring, innercooler, downpipe/exhaust, oil cooler, electric fans, manual t-case, mounts, ect.) so ive been tossing around the idea of buying another ranger of similar year with a blown up motor for cheap to swap into, so i can drive one, then swap lift and accessories over to the one i put the diesel in later and sell one as a stock ranger. but who knows, probably wont happen.

and i know the wiring should be simple because its a mechanical diesel but the thing is my truck's wiring is already mutted together from stock to a explorer 4.0 harness. I dont get why im so worried about it when everyone says its simple... i guess its just sounding too good to be true or something because to me, it seems about as easy as dropping a 12v cummins in a ford... which ive helped a friend do twice... which was not exactly simple. you should try and get a picture or hand drawn diagram of your harness set up for me if you would? that would ease the worries and be GREATLY appreciated.

 

[Oh2Ranger]

No problem. Happy to help, I do have some good info I think you will find helpful on my laptop. I had a warranty on the screen and just put in a claim. Who knows how long that will take. I've seen what you have done on your build thread, I think that your more than capable and should ease your mind on how hard it is. I'm saying this without my own project complete, I still have a few hurdles to jump through myself.. but looking back it wasn't all that difficult.

All that I would do is tear off the head and look inside. If it has been sitting for a couple years, I would add a little ATF on top of the pistons and crank the engine over by hand a few times. This will lubricate the cylinder walls and seat any rings that are stuck. It's just too easy to go in with the intent to change out rings but end up with new pistons.. bearings.. balance shaft stuff.. etc.

Do you have a bell housing for the ford engine, or were you planning on using the km-132 drive train? That might make the biggest difference in the difficulty of physically getting everything in and mounted. Once it's in, and you have a driveline hooked up.. all the accessory stuff will be a breeze.

 

[mason_411]

ok awesome thanks man when you get that fixed id be real interested in picking through your work.

and yeah tell me about it... id love to rebuild it and get it to be a 0 mile engine (because i still have no idea on how many miles it has) but thats really expensive.

and i was planning on using the km132 drive train as thats all i have... the bell housing pattern and clutch setup appear to be the same so i think it should be easy. and i have to costum make some drive shafts too. 3" shorter front (shortening is easy), 3" longer rear... not sure if you can extend drive shafts... i might have to go to a one piece custom ordered one. all i see is the dollar signs adding up haha itll be worth it though.

 

[ericlerouge]

I have a wiring diagram for the ranger diesel, and probably one for the ram 50 now that i got the fsm. (i won't scan the entire fsm, but i can scan some pages when you need them. BUT it's the kind of duty i hate to do!!!!) if you have a spare 30$ look on e bay!!!

transmission wise if i were you, i'd check if the trans you have have the same bell-trans bolt pattern than a fm-146. if so, hunt for a fm-146 and you'll be ok for drivetrain. (they are both mitsu trans after all)

If you can hook a starter to the engine you want to use, do a compression/leak down test. then you'll know the condition a bit more without tearing it apart.

 

[mason_411]

i didnt mean the whole thing just a few pages but if you dont want to its cool man.

well drive shafts are gunna cost me right around 150-200 so unless i can find a fm146 for cheaper than that, its not really worth it is it? i mean how much stronger are they really?

and i cant beilieve i didnt think of that haha thats going on my list next. first i gotta get the motor into the garage... it took and hour to get the blown one in there because our door way is so small maybe this one will have to come in the actual garage door hahaha

 

[ericlerouge]

i don't mind scan and send some pages when you don't find something. But i just don't want to end up scanning pages each and every week thas all!

the only things about keeping it closer to stock is you'll be able to reuse trans mount and t-case as the stock unit. keep your driveshafts stock, way less assle with the sticks and stuff around. and for maintaining your vehicle after.

looks like you're in serious mods, and i think it means more troubles and more money than a used tranny.

i try to keep mine as stock as possible cause i want to drive the thing, not let her sit for a year and get bored and sell it.

that is just my way. i'm not saying you can't do this or that or that you're not capable of doing it. just saying the simpler the better.