44s under a ranger? how?

[bobbywalter]

so what are we saying here.?.?.?
6 months to make 44's fit?
a 60 isnt or can not be a bolt in swap?


i agree, if you have to ask....you may just be over your head.


but if anyone is stating you can not just bolt 60's on and run 44's in a weekends time with simply some hand tools, a grinder a, drill and some cable with a few trips to a scrap yard and hardware store, i would have to say they are wrong. i would also say that the result would be shitty for running 44,s....but you would be off and runnin. and can upgrade as money allows from there.


first upgrade would probably be steering.

 

[Loanranger]

so what are we saying here.?.?.?
6 months to make 44's fit?
a 60 isnt or can not be a bolt in swap?


i agree, if you have to ask....you may just be over your head.


but if anyone is stating you can not just bolt 60's on and run 44's in a weekends time with simply some hand tools, a grinder a, drill and some cable with a few trips to a scrap yard and hardware store, i would have to say they are wrong. i would also say that the result would be shitty for running 44,s....but you would be off and runnin. and can upgrade as money allows from there.


first upgrade would probably be steering.

Some cable? Can you elaborate? And I would think you'd have to add a welder to that tool list to move the spring pads?

 

[bobbywalter]

yeah...cable. so you can weld with batteries or your alternator.



but thats for the rear axle. the front bolts on once you drill some holes.

 

[cbluepit]

the way i did mine was stripped it down to just a frame and body and fabbed up everything so i could use 12 chevy spring front and rear . there is no way to do this in a weekend

 

[bobbywalter]

your truck and its goals would definatly take some work.........i would most likely not be able to pull that off in a weekend at home with my tools..


my truck definatly. a weekend solid of time with access to material i would dial it in too. two things i have not had in 15 months.


basically ripped all the shit out one night after it broke and went to bed pissed, woke up still pissed and was testing it the next night...


8.8/d35 one day.....d60 the next with all bolt on front end with shit i had laying around save for the hi steer arm which was covered in dust from waiting so long.. it took a few weeks to get it where i liked it cause i only had an hour or two here and there to change things due to my work schedule which was generally 12-16 hrs a day 7 days a week at that time. i changed it several times with spring experimentation to soften it up. and am changing it again.

when i get it where i like it i will weld up some decent looking mounts and hopefully be done for ahwhile.


grinder and a drill and a battery/alternator setup on my honda powered air compressor along with my metrinch set.


i have @ 10 k on it with most of that freeway. and with some luck my next spring combo will work out perfect.


with the first setup i had double blocks out back to level it, 44's would have easily fit...but it was too high for detroit freeway rushhours with 33's. i had to drive thru rush some times then another 150+ miles to get to work when the locations were bad. that and i cant use a tall truck where i like wheelin anyway. with the axle where i wanted it in front i was gonna need a new shaft as well as it was just acceptable with a long yoke on it, and i would have had to cut the k member to wheel. i am still finishing some test work with ttb so i want that k member intact for a spell longer...likely june/july..


so really...in basis....44's are easily fit depending on goals. after i get my preferred ride charactoristics, a guy could copy the setup and be running in hours like any old liftkit and axle swap.


then again, theres guys you will see like mentioned before that take two weeks to do a ttb bracket lift.


its all in what it is and needs and what you gottz.

 

[bobbywalter]

as far as stripping down to the frame....


in the rust belt we need to do that every 3-5 years if you want your shit to last and drive it year round massive amounts of miles. even doing that all my spreaders are on there last tour of duty...so i am looking at frames these days, if i can get one for the right price i will do a current production unit. fawkers are tough.

i have had mine since 92 so....thats a 6-8 hr deal to have frame rails exposed and on the ground. of course it takes alot longer to put it back together.


if it got sent out for sandblast and paint its fast and easy....but i dont have money like that


if i had money like that i would buy a jeep.

 

[mhughes165]

hes building a "show" truck, for a show truck i would just run 60's front and rear, order the radius arm wedges from bronco graveyard, run some extended radius arms intended for a f-150, you will really want since u dont want to cut fenders probably a 8" lift in which your going to have to get some 79 buckets and drop them 4" lower then stock location, take the truck off the frame, clean the entire fram, have it ceramic coated....

im not going to continue...if u dont know what its going to take to make a shwo truck on 44"s im not wasting my time giving you a idea

lol
and that was to the original poster. in no way to punisher LOL

but then again....i dont think he would EVER build himself a show only rig....and id kill myself if i thought about it...

OK, to the original poster......

Honostly, if you have to ask how hard it is, and what does it take to put 44"s on a ranger, and how to do a solid axle swap, and how much "lift" do I need? Then I am sorry but you need to forget this project and go a lot smaller and more economical.

I am not trying in anyway to burst your bubble, but I promise you it is way harder to get everything right then what you are thinking. It is not a bolt in application by no means.

First off, you might as well plan on your rig being tore down about a minimum of 6 months(unless you have all the time in the world to work on it). And if you are going to attempt to do this yourself then you need to have mad fab skills and all the right tools, chopsaw, good welder, torches, good heavy drills (or drill press) grinders, some sort of heavy frame lift, (or at least a safe way of suspending your frame in mid air for long periods of time. You need to know four link geometry and you need to know how and where to measure off of to get your frame/axle combo squared in the rig.


Again I am not trying to discurage you, I am trying to help you spend your time and money in the right direction, if you have all the tools and skill, I will be glad to help you along the way with questions and answers. But I have seen a lot of people on rigs that thought they knew what they were doing or thought they could do it and they end up scrapping the project after about a year, and all they really did was waste a ton of money, time and a perfectly good rig. A lot of the time people wished they had just left it alone and put some decent size tires on it and wheeled it. The only other way is to take it to a very well known custom shop, (not a trucks accessories or show truck lift store) and then get ready to pour out the bucks.


Now here is my opinion on what you need to do to build what you are wanting. In my opinion lose the radius arms first thing, depending on what you are wanting to do with the rig, either put coils up front with a good four link set up, and leaf the rear, or do coils all the way around with 4 link front and rear.


Don't even give a D44 a second thought, go at LEAST a D60 but if you are gonna offroad only, which with this set up, you are, then go rockwells, cheaper then a D60 and way stronger and actually just as if not easier to work on. Ditch the steering and go hydrolic, your arms and the trucks box, pump and frame will thank you.


Unless I missed it somewhere you really need to say what your intentions with this rig is, show, mud, rocks, trails, snake river record jump, hill climbs, running over Tarus' while messing with the radio, what?
ok those last two were a joke but seriously what are you gonna do with it?


Let me know that and I will give you my opinion on which way I think you should go, or maybe you don't want my opinion since I just opened a monsoon on your parade. :black_eye




Here is my B2 on rockwells and 44"s with four link front and rear, and 8" Xj coils in the front and 4" XJ coils in the rear. I also have a little bit of a moty in her too

BTW 6.72 gears in the rockwells still isnt enough gearing in my opinion with 44"s, I would like to had 7.10's

 

[ignerntkneece]

geeze 2 weeks to put on a ttb lift, me and my dad put a 3 inch lift on my truck in an evenin... well prob. like 10 hours but thats cuttin the rivets on the stock brackets and such... it wasn't fun but i don't see 2 weeks to do that?

your truck and its goals would definatly take some work.........i would most likely not be able to pull that off in a weekend at home with my tools..


my truck definatly. a weekend solid of time with access to material i would dial it in too. two things i have not had in 15 months.


basically ripped all the shit out one night after it broke and went to bed pissed, woke up still pissed and was testing it the next night...


8.8/d35 one day.....d60 the next with all bolt on front end with shit i had laying around save for the hi steer arm which was covered in dust from waiting so long.. it took a few weeks to get it where i liked it cause i only had an hour or two here and there to change things due to my work schedule which was generally 12-16 hrs a day 7 days a week at that time. i changed it several times with spring experimentation to soften it up. and am changing it again.

when i get it where i like it i will weld up some decent looking mounts and hopefully be done for ahwhile.


grinder and a drill and a battery/alternator setup on my honda powered air compressor along with my metrinch set.


i have @ 10 k on it with most of that freeway. and with some luck my next spring combo will work out perfect.


with the first setup i had double blocks out back to level it, 44's would have easily fit...but it was too high for detroit freeway rushhours with 33's. i had to drive thru rush some times then another 150+ miles to get to work when the locations were bad. that and i cant use a tall truck where i like wheelin anyway. with the axle where i wanted it in front i was gonna need a new shaft as well as it was just acceptable with a long yoke on it, and i would have had to cut the k member to wheel. i am still finishing some test work with ttb so i want that k member intact for a spell longer...likely june/july..


so really...in basis....44's are easily fit depending on goals. after i get my preferred ride charactoristics, a guy could copy the setup and be running in hours like any old liftkit and axle swap.


then again, theres guys you will see like mentioned before that take two weeks to do a ttb bracket lift.


its all in what it is and needs and what you gottz.

 

[Shane M]

Even 40's are tough UNLESS your not afraid to cut.

 

[Evan]

I agree with what Punisher said on this. You need to think about the resources you have and how they'd best be used. The four main resources when it comes to building rigs are time, money, knowledge, and shop capability. Personally, I'd love to have Rockwells and 44s under the Explorer. I have the money and knowledge to do so, but a somewhat limited shop and very limited time. Therefore I decided to do a build based on the stock infrastructure of the truck. Even that was somewhat time consuming.

So you need to build a truck that you can cover with those 4 resources. For some that might be a truck with rear locker and 31s, for others like Punisher it could be the ultimate rig. Either way, the point is to hit the trails and have a blast, and take pride in the truck you worked on and/or built.

 

[Boggin]

Im diggin the caution sticker on the forklift

 

[rangerdestroyer]

my buddy has a 92 ranger reg. cab with 40" boggers under it and a dana44 in front and 9" in the rear with choromly axles he has about 15" of lift and he has no problems tearing up the trails with it

 

[Toreadorranger]

Congrats.

 

[BlackBII]

Lol

 

[86 slo-vo]

And if you need to ask now to fit 44's on a Ranger then pay someone to build you a lift. And this WILL not be cheap.

i have to agree with this statement