the news is sure interesting tonight, assassination attempt?

[bobbywalter]

Gotta watch what you wish for. He wanted to be immortally famous.
What’s this? Sixth US president to be shot?

The real question is, did he finish his speech?

with other peoples brain matter on the stands....bull moosen' is a option of complication beyond my capacity..

 

[JoshT]

Gotta watch what you wish for. He wanted to be immortally famous.
What’s this? Sixth US president to be shot?

The real question is, did he finish his speech?

No. Secret Service protocol wouldn't allow that, it would not allow him to remain on site. Things have changed a lot since Teddy's time.

If they had allowed it I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to continue. Based on past actions, I also think he would have shut it down as soon as he learned about the other injuries and death.

with other peoples brain matter on the stands....bull moosen' is a option of complication beyond my capacity..

I think it was about as close as he could get to that, he did about as much as protocol would allow.

He probably wasn't aware that someone else had been hit at the time. This guy usually stops his speeches when people have problems to ensure that they get the help that they need. If he knew someone else was injured or killed, he probably would have been trying to do the same as much as his protective detail would allow.



Considering the way he was treated over 1/6, I want to see the same logic applied to this incident. Politicians and media personalities called for this attempt as much as he did for a riot. Really this has an even better basis as they have actually stated that he needs to be targeted and taken out.

 

[DeeRanger]

What ever happened to that shield ?

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

No. Secret Service protocol wouldn't allow that, it would not allow him to remain on site. Things have changed a lot since Teddy's time.

If they had allowed it I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to continue. Based on past actions, I also think he would have shut it down as soon as he learned about the other injuries and death.



I think it was about as close as he could get to that, he did about as much as protocol would allow.

He probably wasn't aware that someone else had been hit at the time. This guy usually stops his speeches when people have problems to ensure that they get the help that they need. If he knew someone else was injured or killed, he probably would have been trying to do the same as much as his protective detail would allow.



Considering the way he was treated over 1/6, I want to see the same logic applied to this incident. Politicians and media personalities called for this attempt as much as he did for a riot. Really this has an even better basis as they have actually stated that he needs to be targeted and taken out.

I don't watch US news much but I find this hard to believe of any sane person...
Links?

" have actually stated that he needs to be targeted and taken out "

 

[JoshT]

Biden himself said that a bullseye needs to be put on Trump. I don't have a link and not in a position to find and post it right now.

Most likely 90% of those comments were not made with the intent of a literal assination attempt, but neither was the jan 6 speech. The speakers intent doesn't change what the people hear.

 

[pjtoledo]

Gotta watch what you wish for. He wanted to be immortally famous.
What’s this? Sixth US president to be shot?

The real question is, did he finish his speech?

at least 2 hours after the shooting a "news" headline stated: the secret service interrupted Trump's speech

WTF?????

 

[901wd#2]

Been quite a day, dr ruth died, richard simmons died. now this.

Shannon Daughtry from 90210 also.

 

[bobbywalter]

dr ruth was alive? no way.

 

[Blmpkn]

*** The statements I made in my previous post are not the views of the ranger station, it's owner, its moderators, its other members, the server which hosts it, the energy which powers the server from which its hosted, or the keyboard from which it was written.

They are my own personal opinions... and as well all know.. opinions are Inherently wrong.

So please.. I implore you as an individual to not take my statements as a personal attack, or feel as If I negatively judge you based off of your own opinions. I respect everyone here and their own personal constitutions.

#LiveAndLetLive
#FocusOnYOURSELF
#OderusUrungus2024

 

[JoshT]

They are my own personal opinions... and as well all know.. opinions are Inherently wrong.

Well, at least you got that part right. Of course that's my opinion, someone else may disagree.

I implore you as an individual to not take my statements as a personal attack, or feel as If I negatively judge you based off of your own opinions. I respect everyone here and their own personal constitutions.

Not taking any of it personal, but I don't see any solutions presented. It actually sounds like you'd be best served by practicing contentious objection, aka staying home on election day.

As for the third party vote being wasted, with the current third party options, it is. There are no third parties that stand a chance at carrying enough vote to win an election. In the last several decades the only third party on the national ballot has been a in a shade of blue just a little closer to purple. Not conservative enough to sway Republicans, especially when it's candidates are Democrats that could't win their own party. Not progressive enough to sway the Democrats that didn't want them in the first place. People are voting third party because they don't like their candidate and can't bring themselves to vote for the other major party. For a third party vote to mean anything there would need to be a truly independent third party that has a chance at stealing the vote.

Personally I do and will continue to vote for the party that best represents my values and presents the policies that seem the best for this country. So far in my life time (at least the portion eligible to vote) only one party has done that. They are also the most likely to support your dream. I welcome a third viable option, in the mean time I'll keep voting for the one of the two parties that I think is best.

 

[RangerFabWorks]

*** The statements I made in my previous post are not the views of the ranger station, it's owner, its moderators, its other members, the server which hosts it, the energy which powers the server from which its hosted, or the keyboard from which it was written.

They are my own personal opinions... and as well all know.. opinions are Inherently wrong.

So please.. I implore you as an individual to not take my statements as a personal attack, or feel as If I negatively judge you based off of your own opinions. I respect everyone here and their own personal constitutions.

#LiveAndLetLive
#FocusOnYOURSELF
#OderusUrungus2024

You said that right. So your post got deleted. I understand this is a touchy subject. But there’s no need to get so fired up in one post. Just breathe man.

 

[rumblecloud]

*** The statements I made in my previous post are not the views of the ranger station, it's owner, its moderators, its other members, the server which hosts it, the energy which powers the server from which its hosted, or the keyboard from which it was written.

Well...both your posts made me laugh out loud - oh wait I mean LOL.

But I can see why you quit investing your time in politics --- good choice.
//

 

[racsan]

Shannon Daughtry from 90210 also.

Yes, at the time I posted that I wasn’t aware of her death , did read about it later.

 

[pentode]

On the third party topic- they work great in some places... Just look what happened in France last week. And England a few weeks ago. Not so much in Canada but even here it's made a dent and a difference at times.

The problem is that it's going to take a LOT of time to get any traction with a third party in the USA. Like, decades. And IMO, we just don't have that kind of time now, not to be dramatic. As many have said in this thread, we need to find a common ground before much worse things happen.

I'll irritate most everyone here across the whole political spectrum by saying I've voted for both parties at every level- I vote for the candidate who I feel best represents my values and my district, and who is the least full of BS (because they pretty much all are). But then I spent the first half of my life in Maine, and Maine used to have sensible Republican politicians like Bill Cohen and Olympia Snowe and John McKernan and, until recently, even Susan Collins. We've still got Angus King... good old fashioned sensible.

Forgive me, those of you die-hard R voters who live in places where the following is true but - the R party has too many whack jobs in it these days (no need to tell me about the D party, plenty of deeply unlikable people in there too). I'm sure I don't need to name names cause I think their actions and sound bites speak for themselves.

There are plenty of good people left in the R party

EDIT: re-reading my post, I better make it very clear here I meant _politicians_, not just normal American people. Obviously there are 150 million or so good Republican people!

but they seem to have been overwhelmed by whatever this new brand of conservatism is (hint- it's not really conservatism, it's something new), and let's just say it's not the good old fashioned Maine conservatism I grew up with. Didn't always agree with, but respected. I'll take an Angus King every day of the week. That's a guy who can talk to everyone and get things done.

We need to get back to the times before it was dirty to talk to the other side of the aisle, whichever end of the spectrum you're on. My 2 cents.

 

[racsan]

dr ruth was alive? no way.

yeah, I was surprised too.