Bringing the nose up


Bondo

Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2009
Messages
241
Reaction score
1
Points
18
Age
49
Location
Maine
Vehicle Year
1988, 1999
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
2.9, 3.0
Transmission
Manual
Hey all, back online after a long hiatus.

I have a 2006 xlt 4.0 Ranger now and was replacing worn front end parts recently. I wanted to bring the front end level (it was way lower) so I cranked the torsion bars a little. It didn't move much so I cranked more. I gained 1 1/2 inches but no more threads to go higher. Is this all I can hope for?
I put new KYB shocks up front, but maybe I need ones made for 2 inches of lift?
I just want the truck to sit level, or close. I have brand new leaf springs and shocks going in this weekend too, so the rear won't be sagging any more. It will look even more out of level then....
Any ideas?
 


Rock Auto 5% Discount Code: 173A8B749AB83C Expires: January 1, 2020

alwaysFlOoReD

Forum Staff Member
Forum Moderator
TRS Banner 2012-2015
TRS 20th Anniversary
Joined
Apr 13, 2009
Messages
9,283
Reaction score
555
Points
113
Location
Red Deer, Canada
Vehicle Year
'91, '94, '80
Make / Model
Ford, GMC
Engine Size
4.0,4.0,350
Transmission
Manual
Unless the shocks are pressurized they won't affect height.
 

Bondo

Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2009
Messages
241
Reaction score
1
Points
18
Age
49
Location
Maine
Vehicle Year
1988, 1999
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
2.9, 3.0
Transmission
Manual
Unless the shocks are pressurized they won't affect height.
Yeah I figured, just wondering why it won't level out like other people have done.
 

fastpakr

Forum Staff Member
Forum Moderator
U.S. Military - Veteran
V8 Engine Swap
TRS 20th Anniversary
Joined
Aug 6, 2007
Messages
4,829
Reaction score
284
Points
83
Location
Roanoke, VA
Vehicle Year
1999
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Type
V8
Engine Size
5.0
Transmission
Automatic
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Tire Size
285/75-16
Any aftermarket parts on the front like a heavy winch bumper, etc?
 

Uncle Gump

Well-known member
Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 17, 2018
Messages
1,527
Reaction score
703
Points
113
Location
Plano IL
Vehicle Year
2006
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
4.0L
Transmission
Automatic
2WD / 4WD
4WD
My credo
Lead, Follow or get out of my way
The down travel is limited by the upper arm contacting the frame (down stop)... or running out of shock travel. Both of which would put your axle shafts at pretty radical angles... not good for longevity.

You said you replaced some front end parts... what were they... and are you sure something isn't in a bind causing the suspension to not drop? You said you ran out of threads on the adjusting bolt... maybe the torsion bars are worn out?
 

Bondo

Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2009
Messages
241
Reaction score
1
Points
18
Age
49
Location
Maine
Vehicle Year
1988, 1999
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
2.9, 3.0
Transmission
Manual
Any aftermarket parts on the front like a heavy winch bumper, etc?
No aftermarket parts.

I put a new upper a-arm with ball joint on the drivers side and lower control arm/ball joint and sway bar link on the passengers side. 2 new front shocks as well.

I'm wondering if the torsion bars have lost their spring rate?
 

Bondo

Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2009
Messages
241
Reaction score
1
Points
18
Age
49
Location
Maine
Vehicle Year
1988, 1999
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
2.9, 3.0
Transmission
Manual
I had the front end off the ground and everything hung low. Seems like it loses its height a bit after driving around.
 

Uncle Gump

Well-known member
Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 17, 2018
Messages
1,527
Reaction score
703
Points
113
Location
Plano IL
Vehicle Year
2006
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
4.0L
Transmission
Automatic
2WD / 4WD
4WD
My credo
Lead, Follow or get out of my way
One of the first rules of suspension work... what you do to one side... you do to the other side. Not saying that not replacing both upper and lower control arms of both sides is causing you issue... but it could. Control arm bushing will twist to allow the suspension to travel up and down. It is Important to tighten the control arms with the weight of the vehicle on the tires. This will allow the bushing to twist up and down with the suspension travel.

It could be the torsion bars are weak... I think you should be able to get 1 1/2 to 2 inches out of the stock adjusters. You can also go with aftermarket adjusters which are indexed differently and will allow the torsion bar to rotate more forcing the spindles down causing the vehicle to lift. Just watch your angles... and remember the further you force the spindle downward... the less down travel you have.
 

Bondo

Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2009
Messages
241
Reaction score
1
Points
18
Age
49
Location
Maine
Vehicle Year
1988, 1999
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
2.9, 3.0
Transmission
Manual
Yeah I had weight on the tires before tightening the a-arms down.

Thanks for the replies.
 

alwaysFlOoReD

Forum Staff Member
Forum Moderator
TRS Banner 2012-2015
TRS 20th Anniversary
Joined
Apr 13, 2009
Messages
9,283
Reaction score
555
Points
113
Location
Red Deer, Canada
Vehicle Year
'91, '94, '80
Make / Model
Ford, GMC
Engine Size
4.0,4.0,350
Transmission
Manual
I haven't tried it with a-arms, but have with rear spring shackles. Let them droop and tighten them down, it will give a little extra lift. With the rear spring shackle the inner tube piece is clamped between the shackle hanger, and the outer tube piece can still swivel, that acts like a spring.
 

Bondo

Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2009
Messages
241
Reaction score
1
Points
18
Age
49
Location
Maine
Vehicle Year
1988, 1999
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
2.9, 3.0
Transmission
Manual
Ok thanks.

Getting the new rear leafs and shocks in this weekend so I will be underneath the truck anyways.
 

09fx4guy

Member
Joined
Jan 10, 2010
Messages
41
Reaction score
4
Points
8
Location
USA
Vehicle Year
2009
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
4.0
Transmission
Automatic
What is the code for the torsion bars? (F,B,1) If you have an F bar with 100,000 miles, it will sag a bit. You can switch to a #1 bar and get a bit of lift, Tasca carries them.
 


Top