I need help with my AP government class

[ccrunner1]

thanks everyone for the help

 

[KELLY88]

Ah, AP Government and Economics, good times. Like has been said before the point of this assignment is not whether you agree or disagree with the decision. Personal opinion doesn't mean jack on a report like this. It's like writing an English report. Teaching you to how to utilize sources rather than write whatever you think. Sources and citations become laborious and tiresome but they are your friend when it comes to filling up the space. Maybe it's a little different where you are but we were taught in these kinds of situations that for every line you quote you should write another line summarizing your quote. Sometimes they were straightforward and sometimes they required much more explanation. I haven't done this class for a long time and other people have offered help on your specific topics so I'll leave it at that.

 

[low_five]

Piss off. I took that same class and I figured out how to get a good grade in it.

Look, hot rod, no one cares what classes you took and barely passed. hint: thats why im not citing all the classes I took, cause nobody gives a shit and I dont want to look like a giant toolbag.

Making up stuff might manipulate a stupid teacher -- or might not -- but understanding HOW and WHY the Supreme Court works is the point. Agreeing with it is irrelevant. Meet the point of the lesson and not only does he guarantee a good grade, but he also gains a bit of understanding about what the issues were.

All that shit can be summed up in a few sentences. Anything else is just filler.

Making up a story is fiction.

No way. Are you serious? when you make up a story, its fiction?

Unless it's very well informed fiction, it won't help understanding because it won't be the same issues. Well informed fiction is far more work than just doing it correctly.

It only seems to be more work to people who arent very creative or original.

By far the most important lesson one gets in school is how to understand a position you don't agree with. Apparently, you never learned that.

I already said that so thanks for repeating what I said and then attempting to take credit for it and then pretending that I didnt already say it like 5 posts ago. youre the greatest.

 

[valleyvinyl84]

Look, hot rod, no one cares what classes you took and barely passed. hint: thats why im not citing all the classes I took, cause nobody gives a shit and I dont want to look like a giant toolbag.



All that shit can be summed up in a few sentences. Anything else is just filler.



No way. Are you serious? when you make up a story, its fiction?



It only seems to be more work to people who arent very creative or original.



I already said that so thanks for repeating what I said and then attempting to take credit for it and then pretending that I didnt already say it like 5 posts ago. youre the greatest.

Calm down there Low... Don't make up stuff, find good articles and cite them properly it will get you a better grade than, making up bull to show you did very little research. If ya do it right your grade will show it.

 

[low_five]

Who told you I suggested making stuff up? Being original is is not making stuff up and is better than copying and pasting. If you can take a boring legal concept and apply it in the form of a story you will prove that you understand the concept and it wont be tedious to read. That will be reflected in your grade.

 

[fastpakr]

That might just be the most ignorant concept of education I've ever heard.

 

[low_five]

be quiet fastpakr, adults are talking here.

 

[MAKG]

the key to filling a page with crap is to make it into a story. find or make up an example of how a person was harmed by the circumstances before the court case and then tell how the case helped that person...

So, YOU said that someone should make stuff up.

For the record, I passed that class with a solid A. So, I'll say it again, piss off.

And fastpakr is 100% right....

A course in civics or history is not a course in creative writing. "Filling up a page with crap" is an effort to hide bad research. Any halfway decent teacher will see right through that. I still say it's atrociously bad advice.

And I gotta wonder...did YOU pass the course in question?

 

[low_five]

So, YOU said that someone should make stuff up.

I said to make up a story, not a concept or theory. The one guy was making it seem like I suggested to just pull legal concepts out of his ass, which I didnt suggest.

For the record, I passed that class with a solid A. So, I'll say it again, piss off.

sure you did.

And fastpakr is 100% right....

Nope.

 

[fastpakr]

Making up a story has absolutely nothing to do with learning how government works or satisfying the requirements put forth by the teacher. That you managed to get through your courses by doing something wrong only speaks to your lack of understanding and the teachers' failure to educate you.

The point of the assignment is to research the law, the reasons behind it, etc... Actually learning something. Telling an irrelevant story is bad advice.

 

[MAKG]

fastpakr, you're assuming he did pass his courses. I'm not so sure of that....and somehow, I'm finding it very difficult to see him in an AP civics course at all.

I wouldn't have passed him if he made up stories on a paper I'd assigned (unless it was a creative writing assignment). I might have thought twice about it if it was a remedial class and I could see SOME effort in it. But not for AP.

 

[valleyvinyl84]

+1

 

[souldoubt88]

the key to filling a page with crap is to make it into a story. find or make up an example of how a person was harmed by the circumstances before the court case and then tell how the case helped that person...

That may certainly be one technique, but i doubt that would satisfy the teacher. gonna have to agree w/ MAKG, dont take this advice. Well at least the portion of making up an example, to use real ones is perfectly acceptable.
1. The Supreme Court has decided a number of cases involving civil rights. For two of the following issues, identify the legal issue involved and summarize ( with a case citation) the Court’s decisions on the issue:
Abortion
Affirmative action ( cite three cases )
Homosexual rights
^No stories for this Q, maybe for the identify the legal issue part

2. Both Brown vs Board and Swann vs Charlotte Mecklenburg Board dealt with school desegregation. For each case:
A. Discuss the court’s ruling and its impact
B. Identify and discuss one limitation on school desegregation( look closely at the Swann decision and think critically here-including that of white flight).
^A real story could take up some space here for the impact part.

 

[Skid Vicious]

you don't have to make stories up if you have pics. ALWAYS include pics.

 

[low_five]

Telling an irrelevant story is bad advice.

What you are doing is called a strawman attack. I didnt suggest telling an irrelevant story, but you have come to the conclusion that I did suggest that and you are arguing profoundly against a position you put in my mouth.

I agree with you, telling an irrelevant story would be bad advice. I dont know how you missed the bus so bad that you thought I suggested telling an irrelevant story. A story that includes the details of the case and suggests how or why it turned out the way it did is not irrelevant.