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Why doesn't Ford bring diesel Rangers to the US?

Would you buy a Ford Ranger with a diesel engine? (If Yes, pick more than one)

  • No

    Votes: 4 7.1%
  • Yes

    Votes: 52 92.9%
  • + only a four cylinder to get better fuel mileage

    Votes: 12 21.4%
  • + only a six or larger to get better power

    Votes: 24 42.9%
  • + only if the price isn't more than 10% higher than the gas models

    Votes: 17 30.4%
  • + only if the price isn't more than 25% higher than the gas models

    Votes: 7 12.5%
  • + only a 4WD model

    Votes: 34 60.7%
  • + only a quad-cab

    Votes: 15 26.8%

  • Total voters
    56

Ford Ranger Thunder 2.5 litre Diesel

Hello,

I was interested to read your comments about the diesel engined Ranger which is sold in Europe. I live in England and I own a new one.

The model I own is the second I have owned in the past five years, originally I bought a double cab XLT 4X4, which had a 2.5 litre direct injection turbo diesel engine which although it only produced 109BHP, had enough torque to pull a house. Unfortunately, as the truck was not fitted with ABS, the towing weight was limited to 2.2 tonnes (braked) and the top speed was a long slog up to 97 mph as the turbo didn't cut-in until over 2500RPM and they are very low geared.

The average fuel consumption was in the region of 30 (imperial) miles to the gallon (I don't know what that is in US gallons), which is very good. I got rid of it because after 84,000 miles the clutch was on its way-out (they have a five gear manual box), there was too much transmission shunt, the LSD clutches were worn (probably because they are very tail-happy and it's such good fun sliding them around corners and roundabouts) and the catalytic convertor detached itself from the exhaust system (titanium cats are fitted as standard on all EU diesel engines) and the local Ford dealer wanted £1300.00 (2600.00 US dollars at that time) for a replacement, so I bought a new one!

The new '08 model Ranger Thunder has 143bhp from a 2.5 litre displacement common rail turbo diesel engine, which has a variable geometry turbo fitted. A 3 litre engine is available which can be allied to either a manual or automatic gearbox (in 4X4 versions only, all 4X2 models are fitted with the 2.5litre diesel engine and all base model 4X4s have the 2.5 litre engine up to Thunder trim level, which comes with either). In some countries the 2.5l option is not available and there are some far eastern countires which have a 2X4 model which has the same suspension as the 4X4 model, but are only 4X2, so it's a con!

The Ranger Thunder is one model down from the top-end 'Wildtrack' model, which is extremely garish in its colour schemes and only comes in 3 litre engine option, which is strange as it's general weight and towing capabilities are the same as the 2.5 litre version but uses more fuel - I had one for a week whilst the local dealer fixed some 'teething problems' with my new one, which came to light after I collected it (the inclinometer and other related dials did not work and there was a dent in the roof).

Both models have the acceleration of small sports cars when unladen and the variable geometry turbochargers mean that there is very little turbo-lag, although a disadvantage of the common-rail diesel engine is that you have to rev the genitals off them (relatively speaking) to get them to pull away from a standing start whilst riding the clutch or they stall (all stick-shift common rail diesel engines are like this)... the old direct injection turbo diesel engine would pull away on a 1 in 1 hill at tick-over. The top speed is stated at 106mph, which it will achieve very quickly (in the UK most people drive at around 80 to 90 mph on motorways, and this model is more than adequately equipped to deal with UK motorway speeds both in terms of acceleration, speed, NVH and comfort.

The new Ranger will return around 40 imperial mpg if I'm careful when driving and don't exceed 70 mph on motorways (highways) too often. Generally and around town the double cab model I own returns around 35mpg.

They will all carry at least 1 tonne and tow 3 tonnes and there is little general increase in fuel consumption. As an aside, I also had an Isuzu Denver Max LE until recently too, which had a 2.5 litre CRD 4 pot engine with 185 bhp and was a dog, in that it didn't handle itself at all as well as the Ranger either in terms of speed, acceleration or fuel consumption and could still only carry and tow approximately the same loads (a minimum 1 tonne payload is a legal requirement in the UK, at which point the trucks are classed as 'light commercial vehicles as opposed to cars, otherwise the amount of tax paid when purchasing the vehicle is extortionate) and towed almost 3 tones of yacht and trailer back from southern Brittany in France (a journey of around 400 miles each way - I know, this is Europe and its very small!!! France is 3 times the size of the UK, there are places in the UK where you can drive from one side of the country to the other in less than 4 hours on a good day), and the Isuzu returned 29 mpg, which I believe is less efficient than the Ranger would be in the same circumstances.

The UK spec Ranger Thunder comes with (in no particular order) aircon, electric windows fronts and back, black leather seats and trim, heated seats, inclinometer and compass pod, shift on the fly 4 wheel drive c/w electronic free wheeling hubs, electrically operated door mirrors, limited slip rear differential, 6 disc CD/mp3 player c/w am/fm radio with RDS etc, sump and transmission guard, alloy wheels, and other stuff I can't remember.

Generally, they are much cheaper than cars and are better equipped than most in the UK. They are supremely comfortable and handle themselves very well.

Thanks

I anyone is interested I have a UK catalogue with all of the published information regarding these vehicles...
 
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I wonder what the shipping would cost to get one over here. RB
 
DUDE... not to thread jack but that "broncostar" you call it is so freakin awsome...

i heard the (rare) diesel rangers from back in the day were seriously underpowered... being turbo'd none the less
 
my grandma drives a diesel ranger its a 2007 double cab 2.8 diesel turbo intercooler gives up 132hp i believe, its made in argentina search for the argentina models they are way better than the uk mazda based models(2.5diesel) i will post some pics soon. they also ofered here a limited ranger with a 3.0 turbo diesel with common rail injection and variable geometry (160hp) those cars are fast as hell!!
even the 2.8 has enough power to leave behind a sedan like the corolla 1.8 or the civic easily or even faster cars, they also are good for burning tires lol :D bad news is that now they only sell the mazda based model made in thailand with the less powered 2.5 :( it also lost the big trcuk atitude cuz the previous ranger had 4x4 suspensions even with no 4x4 and the american 07-08 front end and interior, the mazda based is just a mazda with a different front end(search latin america mazda BT-50) even the higher susp is gone
 
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Another thing i wish they sold in North America is the four door Ranger. Ford doesn't think they would sell good here, which is bullcrap. I would love to own a four door Ranger, or a diesel Ranger.
 
jackcoulter - Good Post, thanks for the info!

If I could get a four door ranger, I would, they look pretty bitchin
 
jackcoulter - Good Post, thanks for the info!

If I could get a four door ranger, I would, they look pretty bitchin

What about a four-door Ranger with a diesel ?:icon_idea:





...and TTB. :D
 
Hello,

I was interested to read your comments about the diesel engined Ranger which is sold in Europe. I live in England and I own a new one.

~~~snip~~~

Thanks

I anyone is interested I have a UK catalogue with all of the published information regarding these vehicles...

Thanks for the write up Jack.

it just makes things even more of a burn.

Someone posted that Ford couldn't convert the engine to US specs, but I think that is BS. I assume the current UK version is Euro4 compliant? If it is, then it should not be hard.

Part of the problem is that diesel fuel in Europe is different. As of 2005, the minimum Cetane must be 51, and in the US you typically find 40 and less common, 45. American ULSD is compatible with the european engines' spec.

Euro4 specs for diesel: (grams per km)

CO HC HC+NOx NOx PM
0.50 - 0.30 0.25 0.025

EPA current Tier 2 specs for diesel: (grams per mile)

NMOG* CO NOx† PM HCHO
0.010 2.1 0.07 0.01 0.004

if you convert the Euro4 specs from gram/Km to gram/Mile, they are very similar. however, the standards measure different things. Euro measures average output whereas the US EPA measures "average output over life".. it is a subtle difference, but one that makes importing them VERY hard for an individual.

However, if FoMoCo wanted them here, they could do it.
 
there are some far eastern countires which have a 2X4 model which has the same suspension as the 4X4 model
they call that the "edge" model here.
 
i hear that i want a 4boor 4x4 so bad i am building one :)

look at avatar
 
As stated earlier in this thread, diesel quality is one of the issues as to why rangers are'nt available in the US with diesel.
Sulfur content is too high as far as I have learned

Tommy
 
Sulfur content was an issue prior to 2005, US diesel is now all ULSD which is compatible with the euro-spec diesel.

There are multiple issues, I think, but sulfur isn't one of them. The point is that Ford could find an engine to put in the Ranger. VW and Benz have done it, and more are expected on the horizon.
 

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