My New House & Workshop

[1990RangerinSK]

So you poop outside on the lawn? Because thats the definition of house broken...

I'm human. I don't need to be house broken. I need to be potty trained, and I have been such for 45 years or more. I poop in the toilet. You know, the white porcelain bowl in the bathroom?

 

[Jim Oaks]

@97RangerXLT I'm definitely not looking at this like I have X amount of dollars to spend. The idea of spending all that money makes me nauseous.

@Rick W I don't think you're pushy, I'm just pointing out that I don't have the funds for some of the things you suggest.

@Dirtman Stop pooping in my thread.

The last contractor asked me how I wanted the inside finished. I told him to just raise the roof and add more block to the walls, I'll take care of the rest. I also told him that I may need to do some of the things I want done in stages as money allows.

The sewer line is obviously the most important thing that needs dealt with. I just don't want to make plans to get it fixed until I get a quote from this last contractor. I want to be sure of the direction I'm going before I get it fixed.

The existing sewer line is definitely clay pipe. I watched them open it up, cut it, and use a rubber coupler to join the new section of PVC to it.

This picture should give you a better idea how far the pipe is below the building:

FYI, I appreciate all of the input. When I talk to this last contractor again I'll discuss my sewer issue.

 

[Rick W]

You’re quite welcome.

Another Rick’s Tips. When you have the ditch open, why not leave a one and a half inch PVC conduit in it with a T pointing up at strategic points: right by each wall, over near the house, maybe at the corner of those two concrete slabs, whatever. Just cap all the ends of the pipe. Then if you want to run lanterns or outlets or Whatever, for 50 bucks now, you’ll avoid 90% of the digging later. One thing I love in my shop outback is that I can turn on the lights from the kitchen, set the alarm from the kitchen, etc. I even ran a quarter inch airline to my kitchen sink so I can blow all the dust at the kitchen or really anywhere in the house with a portable line. If you do put in a inch and a half, try to use sweeps or use two 45s instead of a 90 to make it easy to run a fish tape in it. I would also put in a pretty strong nylon line so it’s there for whatever you want to pull into the conduit. And I never pull anything in a conduit without pulling in an extra nylon line with it so there’s always one in there.

my 2 cents...

 

[Roert42]

@97RangerXLT I'm definitely not looking at this like I have X amount of dollars to spend. The idea of spending all that money makes me nauseous.

@Rick W I don't think you're pushy, I'm just pointing out that I don't have the funds for some of the things you suggest.

@Dirtman Stop pooping in my thread.

The last contractor asked me how I wanted the inside finished. I told him to just raise the roof and add more block to the walls, I'll take care of the rest. I also told him that I may need to do some of the things I want done in stages as money allows.

The sewer line is obviously the most important thing that needs dealt with. I just don't want to make plans to get it fixed until I get a quote from this last contractor. I want to be sure of the direction I'm going before I get it fixed.

The existing sewer line is definitely clay pipe. I watched them open it up, cut it, and use a rubber coupler to join the new section of PVC to it.

This picture should give you a better idea how far the pipe is below the building:

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FYI, I appreciate all of the input. When I talk to this last contractor again I'll discuss my sewer issue.

Why you taking pictures of random guys buts?

 

[Ranger850]

And you people think I'm an idiot for pooping in the furnace...

That is NOT why we think that about you.

 

[Rick W]

I was raised in New Jersey and I’ve got a pretty thick skin which I guess is a good thing considering all my thought on this has spurred everybody else to think about how and where they take a crap, and further thoughts of men’s butts....

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

I'm kinda surprised its stayed as on track as it has...lol.

 

[Jim Oaks]

This house hates me. When I moved in the two GFCI outlets by the kitchen sink worked. Then one day they stopped working. I suspected that one was connected to the other, so when one stopped it killed the other one. When I removed one I found that one of the white wires was loose.

Today I replaced all of my kitchen outlets and switches including those two. Turned the power on and one has a green indicator light but the outlet doesn't work. Can't test it or reset it. The other GFCI doesn't have an indicator light on at all. I plugged an outlet tester in to both of them and it doesn't light up at all.

WTF?!?!

 

[1990RangerinSK]

This house hates me. When I moved in the two GFCI outlets by the kitchen sink worked. Then one day they stopped working. I suspected that one was connected to the other, so when one stopped it killed the other one. When I removed one I found that one of the white wires was loose.

Today I replaced all of my kitchen outlets and switches including those two. Turned the power on and one has a green indicator light but the outlet doesn't work. Can't test it or reset it. The other GFCI doesn't have an indicator light on at all. I plugged an outlet tester in to both of them and it doesn't light up at all.

WTF?!?!

** Disclaimer - I am not an electrician **

Try resetting the breaker for those two outlets. Turn it off, and then turn it back on again.

 

[Jim Oaks]

I did. One outlet feeds the other. I'm wondering if the wires top to bottom are wrong.

White is on silver and black is on brass so I know that's right.

 

[1990RangerinSK]

I did. One outlet feeds the other. I'm wondering if the wires top to bottom are wrong.

White is on silver and black is on brass so I know that's right.

I asked Uncle Google, and found this: www.buildmyowncabin.com/electrical/wiring-multiple-gfci-outlets.html.

There's a diagram there, that if I read it correctly, shows that the second outlet does NOT connect to the terminals on the first outlet.

Two normal outlets would be connected in series, like this (not shown on the diagram):
-----outlet---------outlet.

Two GFCI outlets get connected in PARALLELL, like this:
----+--Outlet +--Outlet
| |
+-------------+

Again, I'm not an electrician. And, I'm interpreting a diagram I found on google, that I may have misinterpreted.

 

[Jim Oaks]

Fawk ya!

I looked at the directions, checked the wires with a voltage indicator, and realized whoever installed the GFCI outlets wired them wrong. No wonder they didn't work.

I though they did when I first moved in. I must have been wrong.

 

[Jim Oaks]

Oddly enough, these two outlets are the only ones on that breaker. This is where the microwave should be plugged in. Who wants their microwave next to the sink?

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Fawk ya!

I looked at the directions, checked the wires with a voltage indicator, and realized whoever installed the GFCI outlets wired them wrong. No wonder they didn't work.

I though they did when I first moved in. I must have been wrong.

If you can't fix it with a hammer it is probably an electrical problem

They probably just threw them in quick trying to help the house sell.

 

[don4331]

Why do y'all want to bust up the floor of his shed so bad?

I agree with @Rick W of dig up the ground on both sides of the shed (as one side has recently been dug up, it will dig up again easily) and shoot the level of pipe at both sides. If outbound side is lower, on to next problem. If it isn't you know what your problem is.

A trench mole will drill a hole under the slab for a lot less effort/cost than cutting the concrete, trenching, installing new piping, refilling and refinishing the floor. Make sure you keep the mole at the correct slope and probably best to feed in piping as you go. Best to trench enought at pipe level to be greater than shed + trencher, so you can put a continuous pipe under the shed. (If Jim was in Moosomin he might have to cut the slab as renting a trench mole might not be worth it/possible, but he is just outside of Dallas and owns a Ranger to transport it).

OK, it doesn't get the bathroom in the shed working, but Jim can come back to that another day when time and finances allow. And it would only need to be small hole inside, so could even be a rainy day job. ​

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My 2 Cdn pesos.