disciplerocks's B2 build thread

[86 slo-vo]

are you welding if with the HF welder? i STRONGLY suggest you dont.

 

[disciplerocks]

Yes.

 

[railman]

are you welding if with the HF welder? i STRONGLY suggest you dont.

Yes.

once ya got it tacked up...take it to Greg's and use his 220V welder to finish burning it.....I know he won't care.....

Dustin, we aren't putting you or your welder down by any means....just a larger welder on those heavy parts is a must......

l8r, John

 

[disciplerocks]

Oh I know. I didnt spend all this money, to just throw some weak welds on there. I was going to see how well mine would penetrate and how good the bead turned out.

 

[86 slo-vo]

Then it will be weaker when you try to re-weld it, there's a whole lot more force on that bracket then you think.

Tack it with yours then take it to a real welder. Seriously it will break while on the road at speed. It's not worth risking the whole truck to save an hour

 

[RangerSVT]

Dustin, you might want to start saving your pennies for a 220 welder, your technique and welds are good, just the tool you are using needs upgrading. I'm sure you can sell your welder on here to recoup some money. Check out either Clist or Ebay to find em a little cheaper...
SVT

 

[legoms013]

Out with the old.

In with the new.

This is a mock up so I could get the bracket placement right. Going to pull it back off and weld her all up and brace, then re brace the bracket. Does the placement look good?

The jacks are causing your suspension to not sit like it should and normally does at ride height. To get a more accurate placement measurement for where to weld that bracket (this is what I should have done) I would put the tires back on, and put a plate and two steel dowels underneath one tire, so that the suspension is not fighting the ground (scrubbing) and the beams can go to their static ride height and not be jacked/angled like they are now. Once that is done, take a measure on where to place that bracket. I lined mine up so that the pivot of the draglink and the axle beam were vertically in line with each other.

Also before you weld it up, make sure the clearances are all good between the back side of the bracket and the axle drop bracket. Ask me how I know lol

Here is mine (before). Notice how it is on jack stands, and should have been down on the ground. I would have ended up with better bracket placement had I done so:

Welded up:

Of course, I had to change steering setups b/c I had too much lift for the "stonecrusher" style and had to go to a modified superlift superruner setup (night and day difference in driving). Let us know how it drives after you get it all together. I am curious how it will handle in a BII with flexy coils like yours.

are you welding if with the HF welder? i STRONGLY suggest you dont.

I agree, have someone or borrow someone's 220V mig. Hell I sticked mine with 3/16's 7018 H4 @ around 125 amps IIRC. That works too. Need serious penetration for steering components, something the smaller welders cannot accommodate.

And I'd try and beef that bracket up a little for the drivers side tie rod. It needs a larger area to spread the load. I used TrailGear.com's hydro assist weld on bracket for 1.25" OD DOM. Working out nice. Looking good otherwise

 

[disciplerocks]

Thanks man. I knew it alignment of the beams would be off after I jacked it up. Thats why I did all my measuring before hand. Where did you get that bracket? I have been looking for something like that. I wanted it to be one piece and I can't find anything like that anywhere.

 

[legoms013]

Here. I used the one with the bigger 3/4" hole:

http://www.trail-gear.com/ram-assist-rock-assault-front-axle-housing-bracket

I could have made one, but for $20 I had one shipped to my door, with no guess work and it wasn't cheesy as hell lookin. I'm a little eccentric and like things to not look hack whenever I can help it

 

[disciplerocks]

Perfect. Going to order it now. Thanks.

 

[legoms013]

No problemo. Let me know if you have any more questions, I have an extensive knowledge of what not to do (trial by error much?)!!!

 

[disciplerocks]

Got the bracket in yesterday and Alan called me today and said my doubler shaft is done Hope to pick it up Mon or Tues.

 

[4.0B2]

uh oh! doubler!!! lol

i'm still looking into doing a steering like that to... i can't seem to find a superrunner steering.

if you don't mind, how much you got into that steering? and i wanna know how heims work on a DD.. i've heard so much negative. guess i could do the same thing but use TRE's..

 

[disciplerocks]

Somewhere around $150-175 overall.

 

[4.0B2]

so a lot cheaper than superrunner new lol. i'm doing all my research.. (and learning by others mistakes, its cheaper on me that way!!! lol)